Somethings faster than the speed of light

[camac]

Isn't speed all relative anyway? Apparently there are galaxies, stars and planets that are moving away from our planet at a speed that combined with the speed our galaxy is moving the light isn't fast enough to ever reach us. That'd me we are moving faster than the speed of light right?

[Drunken Savior]

That's atheist talk there, Camac. The galaxy didn't begin as a big bang and the continued expansion of our galaxy today can't be measured in the billions, heathen.

[spider-prime]

FRY HIM!

[KingOfSentinels]

So where the fuck is Zeus in all this?

[Icarus4578]

Originally Posted by Drunken Savior

That's atheist talk there, Camac. The galaxy didn't begin as a big bang and the continued expansion of our galaxy today can't be measured in the billions, heathen.

How do you know that the universe began with a big bang? I sure don't know that. Were scientists there filming?

[Northeastmonk]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...eed-claim.html

A British physicist even promised to eat his boxer shorts on live television if it turned out to be correct.


Scientists at CERN, the world's largest physics lab near Geneva, stunned the world of science on Thursday night by announcing they had observed tiny particles known as neutrinos travelling slightly faster than light.


The claim – if true – would be inconsistent with Einstein's theory of special relativity, a cornerstone of modern physics which states that nothing can travel faster than light.


Researchers were so astonished by their findings that they spent months checking their data, without finding any errors that would disprove their claim, and cautiously invited the world to prove them wrong.


Reacting to the news yesterday, scientists working on the project – known as OPERA – stressed the need for the results to be checked before drawing any conclusions about our understanding of the universe.



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Prof Jim Al-Khalili, professor of Physics at Surrey University, said: "The scientists are right to be extremely cautious about interpreting these findings. If the neutrinos have broken the speed of light, it would overturn a keystone theory from the last century of physics.

"That’s possible, but it’s far more likely that there is an error in the data. If the CERN experiment proves to be correct and neutrinos have broken the speed of light, I will eat my boxer shorts on live TV.”

Prof Stephen Hawking, the world's best-known physicist, also expressed doubts, saying: "It is premature to comment on this. Further experiments and clarifications are needed."

Others said that, while the accuracy of the experiment needs to be verified, its impact on our understanding of science and the world around us could be almost unprecedented.

Brian Cox, the TV presenter and physicist, told BBC Radio 6 Music: "If it is confirmed it will be the most important discovery in physics in at least the past 100 years.

"It is a very big deal, it requires a complete rewriting of our understanding of the universe ... it is such an extraordinary claim that it is difficult to believe."

But Dr John Costella, an Australian-based physicist, accused the researchers of making an "embarrassing gaffe" in their calculations.

In a paper published online yesterday, he wrote: "Any physicist worth even a fraction of their weight in neutrinos will be shaking their head, knowing intuitively that the OPERA result is simply wrong."

[Joe Redifer]

I think it is ridiculous that they want to verify the data. Why don't they just take it on faith as true? I mean several wise people have said that it has happened. What more do you need?

[Kiuju2k]

Because that's modern science. Scrutiny is a part of the process. What you should be asking is if Einstein received this kind of scrutiny in his day.

Technology is far more sophisticated obviously then it was during Einstein's time so scientific breakthrough's can be tested and questioned.

Now go upload the game sack episode.

[Badrats Studio]

CERN ... Isn't they the institute in that Dan Brown's novel ?

[calintz]

you read dan brown novels?

[Badrats Studio]

Originally Posted by calintz

you read dan brown novels?

Sure. Why not ? Dan Brown, Tom Clancy. Even Sydney Sheldon novels. I like to read. Either fiction or non fiction.

[THE ICHI]

they going to have to rewrite the history books again. lol
The universe is electrical
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5crTa...eature=related

[Nindalf]

Originally Posted by Badrats Studio

Sure. Why not ? Dan Brown, Tom Clancy. Even Sydney Sheldon novels. I like to read. Either fiction or non fiction.

if only you'd make a distinction between literature and trash.

just kidding dude, it's cool. those books have words and sentences and stuff.

[Badrats Studio]

Originally Posted by Nindalf

if only you'd make a distinction between literature and trash.

just kidding dude, it's cool. those books have words and sentences and stuff.

Now I'm curious : what kind of books you consider as "literature" then ? I know most novels aren't qualified as a respectable literature , though...

[Nindalf]

the kind that have themes that we can relate to as human beings, no matter where or who we are, and not just "hot topics" lifted from the news to sell paperbacks. the kind of writing that puts in words what it's like to be a human and in which we can recognize our own emotions and thoughts in ways we could have never articulated them ourselves.