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Old 05-06-2002, 07:42 PM   #1
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Congress Introduces New Game Violence Bill

Congress Introduces New Game Violence Bill

Looks like it might be illegal for underage kids to be able to buy M rated games. Pretty much No ID, No Game.

...Personally, I think this is getting out of hand. It should be the parents who watches over what there kids play. It's bad enough the media blames a lot of things on the videogame industry. Now this.

But this most likely won't pass. Even if it does, it will take some time.

And if you notice, the bill seems fully inspired from GTA3

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Old 05-07-2002, 05:58 AM   #2
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Call me crazy, but I don't have a problem with this. IT might actually help calm those hysterics who claim kids have access to anything nowadays.

In the same way as you wouldnt/shouldn't really sell a kid a video called "Debbie's wet and messy trip to Anal-Land", selling Soldier of Fortune 2 to a 6 year old is probably not that great an idea either. Hell, if the kid wants to play it so badly, he can nag parents/relatives/older friends into getting a copy. They will still have access to the "violent games" with the benefit that we get the media off our back claiming that kids nowadays can buy anything.

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Old 05-07-2002, 02:03 PM   #3
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What SESKA said is true no matter what, a kid still can get most of those violence games out there to play ..And take a look at WRESTLING look how many kids are watching that but nobody seems to have a problem with it ...and yes WRESTLING is entertainment so is GAMES so i don't get it why some people make a big deal out of it !!!
blame games for school shootings blame games for some lunatic that shot alot of people !!
but hey grap your kids and come and watch wrestling ..cause it's fake so kids can watch it
GAMES is also entertainment and is fake it's not reality !!..I just don't get it !!!
but it's probably me !!!
I know in the states those m-rated games for someone to buy it must have I.D!! outside the states those ratings means nothing!! trust me, here if a kid wants a game ..he'll just enter the store and buy it ..that's it !!!
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Old 05-07-2002, 05:15 PM   #4
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And take a look at WRESTLING look how many kids are watching that but nobody seems to have a problem with it
Actually a lot of parents do. There has been a lot of TV specials where they show how badly kids are getting hurt from all of this. There was even one where a 12 year old kid who killed his 7 year old sister. They get hurt because they try and imitate them. But another problem is that there is a big lack of responsbility from there parents. Some kids might also be mentally ill, where they might not be able to tell the differance form whats real and whats not. But thats a differant case.

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I know in the states those m-rated games for someone to buy it must have I.D!!
Actually State of Emergancy was the first game that had the Check ID stuff. But now you can't evan buy Zone of the Enders, without a parent. And now there might a thousand doller find for buying a $50 game.

...And I agree with both of you. This bill won't stop kids from getting the games. It might temp them evan more to get the game. And than we'll start seeing a whole munch of games like that, with devs trying to exploit it.
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Old 05-07-2002, 08:49 PM   #5
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I am all for stores checking ID on M rated games. If these games are harder to get for kids, it should take some of the heat off when/if something like Columbine happens again. It should allow companies to make more games aimed squarely at adults and increase the amount of subjects contained in them in the US (sex anyone?), without having to worry as much about what kids will be playing. In short, the gaming industry will be much more inline with the movie industry.
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Old 05-07-2002, 09:15 PM   #6
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Thumbs down VERY pissed off

I am furious ( not that i wouldn't just rip the M rated games but that is beside the point ), most people have to realize that video games don't kill people. nor influence anyone who has any metal capacity will not be influenced by the games, outside of the actual game.
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Old 05-08-2002, 12:58 PM   #7
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Unhappy That's how things goes nowadays

This thing won't help either i mean if some kid's big bro got the game and he's sitting there with his little bro playing the game do you think that M-rated thingie will stop the little kid to play it ??..I think the the best way to stop kids playing violence games is if their parents take more responsibility !Those ratings won't help they just make the coverbox looks bad !!! And for the fact people blaming games for more violence well that's how it is ..because gamesworld is soooo easy to blame ..and is an easy target for those people that failed with their responsibility for raising their kids !!!!
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Agreed

If parents just knew how to take better responsibility with there children these days. There wouldn't be so many controversies like this. This bill is almost pointless. Not everyone(if any) is affected by videogames, at least not as far as they would want to kill someone. They blamed the 9/11 crisis on the Microsoft Flight Simulater(PC). And the chances are, that the people never even played the game. They blamed a hit and run incident on GTA3, even though the guy said he doesn't even play videogames. The "media" said that the fact that he knew about the game was a good enough reason.

...Oh well. They'll probably end up making AO rated games now.
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Old 05-08-2002, 05:09 PM   #9
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I didn't bother to read this, I think its bullshit.
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Old 05-08-2002, 06:56 PM   #10
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its no big deal really...

yes it sucks shit for the underage kids, but like many of you said...they will easily be able to get a hold of the games still.

also i almost kind of agree with it. not on the basis of what the congressmen think, but more on the lines of consistency. movies are entertainment and have age restrictions. yet kids still see the movies. its no big deal folks...
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Old 05-09-2002, 12:24 AM   #11
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i have no problems with ratings. i have a problem with censorship (that's another thread, some ruling saying games don't fall under 1st amendment) but rating system, no. you can still make violent games, it'll just have a rating now. what people should be worried about is how they figure out the ratings.

as for kids not being able to get certain games, too bad. that's part of being a kid. you can't do certain stuff. that's why they call it a kid, cuz you're not an adult yet. you can't drive till your sixteen, you can't smoke till eighteen, can't drink till twenty-one and now you can't play games till so and so. that's part of life, deal with it all you kids out there.

now having said that, i've had alcoholic beverages and seen porn when i was underage and i'm sure kids will have no trouble getting M rated games some how.
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Old 05-09-2002, 03:48 AM   #12
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Not such a pointless bill after all

Some people have posted that this Bill would be pointless, since kids can get hold of anything if they set their mind to it, anyway.

Yes, it would make the ID check pointless, though what people seem to fail to realize is that it lifts a lot of the responsability for "reckless games falling in hands of kids" that the media has been putting on developer's shoulders, and putting that responsability where it should be: the stores selling the games and the parents of the kids that want to get the game. The way it should be.

To put an extreme example, its a clerk's "Bad" if he sells cigarettes to a 12-year old. And it's the parent's "Bad" for allowing the kid to smoke (though they probably don't know about it). Does the tobacco industry get the blame for this 12-year old smoking kid? Nope.

It would sure be nice if the Videogames industry doesnt get blamed for every school schooting tragedy out there.
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