New Worldwide sales figures!

DBJAY · 12-11-2002, 04:25 PM

"The opportunity is to grab more revenue from the 47 million people who already have a PlayStation2, a GameCube (10 million), or an Xbox (8.2 million)."

http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...21210_5333.htm

Good article as well.

gabriel · 12-11-2002, 05:07 PM

There was a raging debate about these figures over at gamefaqs (you know how it is). Apparently those are "predicted" numbers, or some such. Either way, it says what we've all known for ages: The PS2 is way ahead, with the Xbox and Gamecube battling it out for second.

Cobi* · 12-13-2002, 11:40 PM

we all knew sony was on top but good gravy!! 8) 47 million?

i'd love to find out how console sales compare after the holidays.

XzenoGear · 12-14-2002, 08:36 PM

10 million(estimated) is not bad for 1 years work!

XzenoGear · 12-14-2002, 08:36 PM

Xbox has sold less then 8 million.

12-15-2002, 02:25 AM

Out of the 47 million PS2s sold, a lot of them are just replacements. I heard people buy a PS2 and modchip it, then the console breaks and they have to buy a new one.

Remember a few months ago, Resident Evil's director, Shinji Mikami was attacking Sony's hardware? He does have a good point.

Zod · 12-15-2002, 12:21 PM

Oh well. When you mod a console, you're forcing it to read formats it was specifically designed not to read as part of it's security. You have to expect a few to screw up as a result.

Cobi* · 12-16-2002, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lionheart
Out of the 47 million PS2s sold, a lot of them are just replacements. I heard people buy a PS2 and modchip it, then the console breaks and they have to buy a new one.

Remember a few months ago, Resident Evil's director, Shinji Mikami was attacking Sony's hardware? He does have a good point.

yes, i'm sure that has happened 47 million times

you know if people were just replacing their ps2's and inflating sony's numbers artificially then how do you explain how well the software sells?

i understand what you are saying, because i had a crappy ps2 that broke down on me, but there are still far more ps2's out there that belong to unique users than xbox's, or gc's. the breaking down incidents or replacements don't account for that much. at least not so much to inflate sales to 47 million.

12-16-2002, 02:42 AM

Also, we should keep in mind that Xbox is likely to be third place in wordlwide sales figures because of one territory..Japan. The impact of Tawain and the new markets are wildcards, but all in all the dominance of Sony in Japan, and the loyal Nintendo following in Japan, will always put Xbox in third worldwide.

XzenoGear · 12-23-2002, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Canton
Also, we should keep in mind that Xbox is likely to be third place in wordlwide sales figures because of one territory..Japan. The impact of Tawain and the new markets are wildcards, but all in all the dominance of Sony in Japan, and the loyal Nintendo following in Japan, will always put Xbox in third worldwide.

*Xenogear Claps* Very well said Canton!

Alucard · 12-23-2002, 10:28 PM

Modchips do not break your console. It is not forcing the system to read anything different. It still reads CDs and DVDs, the same ones that games come on.

Zod · 12-24-2002, 11:21 AM

The PS/2 has measures in place to deliberately prevent it to read certain things, which is why it won't play ROM's or imports without modding. When you mod it, you do force it to read the things it was designed not to read.

Mistatee · 12-24-2002, 02:11 PM

If you dont keep your Ps2 in well cooled or venelated areas, then i will die on you, due to its sub-par ventalation system. Not saying all 47 million are replacements, bu atleast 3-7 million are. Sadly thats alittle less then the # of X-Box's sold.

12-24-2002, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zod
The PS/2 has measures in place to deliberately prevent it to read certain things, which is why it won't play ROM's or imports without modding. When you mod it, you do force it to read the things it was designed not to read.

Industry burnt media includes certain bad sectors in the cd/dvd which the PS2 is designed to read and recognize. When the "bad" sectors do not match the parameters of your region, or are not contained in the media at all (such as by burning a game you download off the net) the PS2 will not load that CD/DVD.

What most PS2 modchips do is bypass this sector scanning process by booting a bootup disc (original, like Action Replay or DVD Region X), then swapping the CD for your own homebrew one. All the modchip does is "trick" the PS2 into scanning for these sectors only once, so there is really no strain at all on the cd unit, it loads the game like any other.

The 100% no swap modchips use a totally different system that involves hacking the bios and compeltely disabling the bad sector scan, making the PS2 into something akin to a developer PS2. However, these chips draw on the power the PS2 uses, and some people have reported Messiah-chips and their clones to actually be harmful to your PS2.

Still, neither of these modchips affect the reading capacity of your PS2's DVD unit. DVD units failing is usually due to dust, and/or crap quality in PS2 hardware.

12-25-2002, 11:43 AM

They are 47 million cosoles sold, Ps2's, Game Cubes AND Xboxes,
so 28,8 million Ps2's, 10 million Game Cubes and 8,2 million Xboxes,

>>>SoldaatCid<<<

12-11-2002, 04:25 PM	#1
DBJAY Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Posts: 3,998	New Worldwide sales figures! "The opportunity is to grab more revenue from the 47 million people who already have a PlayStation2, a GameCube (10 million), or an Xbox (8.2 million)." http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...21210_5333.htm Good article as well.

12-11-2002, 05:07 PM	#2
gabriel infinity in finity Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 841	There was a raging debate about these figures over at gamefaqs (you know how it is). Apparently those are "predicted" numbers, or some such. Either way, it says what we've all known for ages: The PS2 is way ahead, with the Xbox and Gamecube battling it out for second. __________________ They speak of my drinking, but never of my thirst.

12-14-2002, 08:36 PM	#4
XzenoGear TruE_soNy_paTriOt Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,274	10 million(estimated) is not bad for 1 years work! __________________ most wanted RE5(ps3) FF13(ps3) GT5(ps3) HEAVY RAIN(ps3)KillZone2(ps3) PSN ID: Xzenogear

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XzenoGear TruE_soNy_paTriOt Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,274	Xbox has sold less then 8 million. __________________ most wanted RE5(ps3) FF13(ps3) GT5(ps3) HEAVY RAIN(ps3)KillZone2(ps3) PSN ID: Xzenogear

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12-13-2002, 11:40 PM	#3
Cobi* renegade Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NOR*CAL Posts: 2,304	we all knew sony was on top but good gravy!! 8) 47 million? i'd love to find out how console sales compare after the holidays.

12-15-2002, 02:25 AM	#6
Lionheart Guest Posts: n/a	Out of the 47 million PS2s sold, a lot of them are just replacements. I heard people buy a PS2 and modchip it, then the console breaks and they have to buy a new one. Remember a few months ago, Resident Evil's director, Shinji Mikami was attacking Sony's hardware? He does have a good point.

12-15-2002, 12:21 PM	#7
Zod All hail the hypno-toad!! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 3,915	Oh well. When you mod a console, you're forcing it to read formats it was specifically designed not to read as part of it's security. You have to expect a few to screw up as a result.

12-16-2002, 02:42 AM	#9
Canton Guest Posts: n/a	Also, we should keep in mind that Xbox is likely to be third place in wordlwide sales figures because of one territory..Japan. The impact of Tawain and the new markets are wildcards, but all in all the dominance of Sony in Japan, and the loyal Nintendo following in Japan, will always put Xbox in third worldwide.

12-23-2002, 10:28 PM	#11
Alucard Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 32,641	Modchips do not break your console. It is not forcing the system to read anything different. It still reads CDs and DVDs, the same ones that games come on.

12-24-2002, 11:21 AM	#12
Zod All hail the hypno-toad!! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 3,915	The PS/2 has measures in place to deliberately prevent it to read certain things, which is why it won't play ROM's or imports without modding. When you mod it, you do force it to read the things it was designed not to read.

12-24-2002, 02:11 PM	#13
Mistatee Linguistic Massacre Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Rain Central, WA Posts: 4,838	If you dont keep your Ps2 in well cooled or venelated areas, then i will die on you, due to its sub-par ventalation system. Not saying all 47 million are replacements, bu atleast 3-7 million are. Sadly thats alittle less then the # of X-Box's sold.

12-25-2002, 11:43 AM	#15
SoldaatCid Guest Posts: n/a	They are 47 million cosoles sold, Ps2's, Game Cubes AND Xboxes, so 28,8 million Ps2's, 10 million Game Cubes and 8,2 million Xboxes, >>>SoldaatCid<<<