New screen of Myst walkers blue dragon

Alistein · 08-04-2005, 11:37 AM

http://www.mistwalker.info/art.html

Nindalf · 08-04-2005, 12:04 PM

If that would be a screen from a new point n' click game, I'd have an orgasm.

FFXII · 08-04-2005, 06:43 PM

that's pretty

Dr. Bombay · 08-04-2005, 07:09 PM

Seconded. Now I'm far more interested in the game then I was with the DBZ-esque kiddy character designs.

Alexander · 08-04-2005, 07:25 PM

Is this a screenshot or just some sample art? It doesn't look in-game at all... I refuse to believe it!

Dr. Bombay · 08-04-2005, 07:50 PM

Meh. Looking at Kameo, I would say that that could be in game.

It's probably not though. I'm fairly sure this game is still in it's art stages.

naruto_sensei · 08-05-2005, 12:49 AM

it says "concept art staff" on the website on top of the screen...

Dr. Bombay · 08-05-2005, 02:59 AM

I know, I'm just saying. Given what people ahve already done on the hardware, making that in game identicle wouldn't be that tough.

Reality · 08-05-2005, 03:12 AM

Hmm, I don't know Bombay. Thats looks pretty tough to me. Especially when thinking of the the tree leaves and grass in this painting in a real time graphics from. Especially with a real time camera. Rare makes pretty games, thats about all they are, but something like that be a lot of work and take a lot of money. Myst walkers doesn't seem to be a company that would have a lot of that right now.

tpfkanep · 08-05-2005, 07:39 AM

Does not look too hot/"next-gen" for me. I love the style of the gfx tho. But it looks like something similar to this can be done this-gen.

Alexander · 08-05-2005, 12:34 PM

Are you blind? Something that detailed could NEVER be done this generation, much less on the 360. If a game came out that looked like that, it would easily be the best-looking game ever created--nigh, conceived. It certainly DOES NOT look even remotely possible to make by using today's technology. I'd put a game like that off another 6 years. We won't see something that incredible for a long, long time. It's a painting, for God's sake.

Nem · 08-05-2005, 03:31 PM

Xander have you noticed that is 2D?! Its perfectly possible in todays consoles. Seems to be only a piece of art though.

Alistein · 08-05-2005, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Xander

Are you blind? Something that detailed could NEVER be done this generation, much less on the 360. If a game came out that looked like that, it would easily be the best-looking game ever created--nigh, conceived. It certainly DOES NOT look even remotely possible to make by using today's technology. I'd put a game like that off another 6 years. We won't see something that incredible for a long, long time. It's a painting, for God's sake.

You sure you're not the one that's blind. What is so great about these screen that makes it impossible this gen or next gen. If we were talking pre rendered graphics movie level then you could say something of this nature as somef the methods like Ray tracing are not yet available in real time. By the way did you see PGR 3 ,I bet you would have said thesame thing
Just looking at 2D games like Guilty gear series and Alien Homonid is enough to convince anyone that the level of detail can be achieved if not this gen then certainly next gen. Lets just wait for next gen cell shaded or cartoon like games.

Alexander · 08-05-2005, 06:26 PM

I was under the impression that it was not going to be a 2D game, but a 3D cel-shaded one. It doesn't matter, since it is obviously art. There's no use talking about it.

burpingcat · 08-06-2005, 03:01 AM

That's a painting. It's impossible to jump from a whole generation of crude rip-offs of Jet Grind Radio's cel-shading technique to a perfect 3D reproduction of a hand-painted piece. Perhaps if game graphics R&D people would spend time researching how to get 3D games to look GOOD (like that painting, or anything like that), rather than a superficial chase for "photorealism", we might be close to achieving something like that. However, we're not even on the right track. There are more techniques to discover besides cel-shading. The closest we've gotten is Wind Waker, and that was not only shunned, it also didn't look anywhere near as fine as a painting.

X360 may or may not have the power to render something close to that in 3D, but will we ever find out? I doubt it...most people want to see graphics that do gaudy effects just to show off hardware power, not to actually look good or interesting.

08-04-2005, 11:37 AM	#1
Alistein Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 615	New screen of Myst walkers blue dragon http://www.mistwalker.info/art.html __________________ In the heart of the multiverse life springs

08-04-2005, 07:09 PM	#4
Dr. Bombay ificouldjustbemorehuman Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Nexus Between Jersey and NYC Posts: 9,208	Seconded. Now I'm far more interested in the game then I was with the DBZ-esque kiddy character designs. __________________ ~There's a Door Here, But It Will Not Break~ ~There's a Stone There, But It Won't Remain~ ~Up There's a Heaven Now, But It Will Not Wait~ ~And The Lies There, The Scent Of It, Just Too Much~ ~So Should You~ ~Sow It Once and Make It Grow, The Sweet Clematis~ ~Let It Flower, and Paint it All Of The Colors Old~ Instantly Things Fall and Fade, Return to Silence~ ~Why Oh Why, Why Does It All Feel So Sorrowful?~ ~Dreams Of What Is Real~

08-04-2005, 07:50 PM	#6
Dr. Bombay ificouldjustbemorehuman Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Nexus Between Jersey and NYC Posts: 9,208	Meh. Looking at Kameo, I would say that that could be in game. It's probably not though. I'm fairly sure this game is still in it's art stages. __________________ ~There's a Door Here, But It Will Not Break~ ~There's a Stone There, But It Won't Remain~ ~Up There's a Heaven Now, But It Will Not Wait~ ~And The Lies There, The Scent Of It, Just Too Much~ ~So Should You~ ~Sow It Once and Make It Grow, The Sweet Clematis~ ~Let It Flower, and Paint it All Of The Colors Old~ Instantly Things Fall and Fade, Return to Silence~ ~Why Oh Why, Why Does It All Feel So Sorrowful?~ ~Dreams Of What Is Real~

08-05-2005, 02:59 AM	#8
Dr. Bombay ificouldjustbemorehuman Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Nexus Between Jersey and NYC Posts: 9,208	I know, I'm just saying. Given what people ahve already done on the hardware, making that in game identicle wouldn't be that tough. __________________ ~There's a Door Here, But It Will Not Break~ ~There's a Stone There, But It Won't Remain~ ~Up There's a Heaven Now, But It Will Not Wait~ ~And The Lies There, The Scent Of It, Just Too Much~ ~So Should You~ ~Sow It Once and Make It Grow, The Sweet Clematis~ ~Let It Flower, and Paint it All Of The Colors Old~ Instantly Things Fall and Fade, Return to Silence~ ~Why Oh Why, Why Does It All Feel So Sorrowful?~ ~Dreams Of What Is Real~

08-05-2005, 03:12 AM	#9
Reality Sin and Punishment Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 14,164	Hmm, I don't know Bombay. Thats looks pretty tough to me. Especially when thinking of the the tree leaves and grass in this painting in a real time graphics from. Especially with a real time camera. Rare makes pretty games, thats about all they are, but something like that be a lot of work and take a lot of money. Myst walkers doesn't seem to be a company that would have a lot of that right now. __________________ Outpostnine is that 1%.

08-04-2005, 12:04 PM	#2
Nindalf Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 11,905	If that would be a screen from a new point n' click game, I'd have an orgasm.

08-04-2005, 06:43 PM	#3
FFXII Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 40	that's pretty

08-04-2005, 07:25 PM	#5
Alexander I speak with codes. Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,239	Is this a screenshot or just some sample art? It doesn't look in-game at all... I refuse to believe it!

08-05-2005, 12:49 AM	#7
naruto_sensei O N E P I E C E Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,374	it says "concept art staff" on the website on top of the screen...

08-05-2005, 07:39 AM	#10
tpfkanep Gaming since Nov 11, 2006 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: East London, South Africa Posts: 625	Does not look too hot/"next-gen" for me. I love the style of the gfx tho. But it looks like something similar to this can be done this-gen. __________________ Hiroshi Yamauchi: The people who speak about the "next generation" are people who don't know games.

08-05-2005, 12:34 PM	#11
Alexander I speak with codes. Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,239	Are you blind? Something that detailed could NEVER be done this generation, much less on the 360. If a game came out that looked like that, it would easily be the best-looking game ever created--nigh, conceived. It certainly DOES NOT look even remotely possible to make by using today's technology. I'd put a game like that off another 6 years. We won't see something that incredible for a long, long time. It's a painting, for God's sake.

08-05-2005, 03:31 PM	#12
Nem Awakening Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: EU Posts: 6,635	Xander have you noticed that is 2D?! Its perfectly possible in todays consoles. Seems to be only a piece of art though. __________________ "Only those with narrow minds fail to see that the defenition of Impossible is "Lack of imagination and incentive"" - DUNE:BJ

08-05-2005, 06:26 PM	#14
Alexander I speak with codes. Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,239	I was under the impression that it was not going to be a 2D game, but a 3D cel-shaded one. It doesn't matter, since it is obviously art. There's no use talking about it.

08-06-2005, 03:01 AM	#15
burpingcat Really Enjoys The Magic Box Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,156	That's a painting. It's impossible to jump from a whole generation of crude rip-offs of Jet Grind Radio's cel-shading technique to a perfect 3D reproduction of a hand-painted piece. Perhaps if game graphics R&D people would spend time researching how to get 3D games to look GOOD (like that painting, or anything like that), rather than a superficial chase for "photorealism", we might be close to achieving something like that. However, we're not even on the right track. There are more techniques to discover besides cel-shading. The closest we've gotten is Wind Waker, and that was not only shunned, it also didn't look anywhere near as fine as a painting. X360 may or may not have the power to render something close to that in 3D, but will we ever find out? I doubt it...most people want to see graphics that do gaudy effects just to show off hardware power, not to actually look good or interesting.

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