Anyone here uses Paypal?

Investor27 · 04-13-2005, 07:48 PM

Man! I have been using Paypal for almost 3 years now. During that time, I have been ripped off twice, filed complaints with Paypal and had them ruled in my favor, but they couldn't do anything about it. The lastest is when I was ripped off for $30. After I had filed a complaint with Paypal, they did some soul-searching and rule in my favor, but they said they couldn't do anything about it.

I'm pissed as hell. Has Paypal done this to any of you here?

Dr. Bombay · 04-13-2005, 07:52 PM

Sometimes you have to go over the heads of paypal. Call your credit card company if you're using a credit of debit card. They WILL get your money back. But they'll also fine paypal. I know a few people who have gotten angry letters from paypal because while paypal settled, they didn't get their money back and ended up paying the fines themselves because they went over paypal's head.

But that's the risk you take in such a business.

Reko8 · 04-13-2005, 09:45 PM

pappal hasnt screwed me once out of all the times me and my brother use it and thats almost all the time. But thats only dealing with ebay and ive paid one to ragnarok. But other stores ive never used paypal.

Alucard · 04-14-2005, 01:45 AM

You just need to be very careful buying stuff on ebay. And always go to your credit card company and if its within a certain time frame, they'll pull your money back fast.

Paper exe · 04-14-2005, 02:54 AM

See now that why I cannot buy stuff online because there is no credit card company in my country to begin with.

Escaflowne2001 · 04-14-2005, 06:45 AM

Always use my Debit Card never had a problem thus far.

Pilotwings · 04-14-2005, 07:48 AM

www.paypalsucks.com

i use paypal since it was known as x.com and i only use it to receive payments. never had any problems. i think paypal don't take action for any transaction under $60 since you're half of that, you're out of luck.

spider-prime · 04-14-2005, 12:59 PM

I've had no problems so far

but some of hte people who sent their money to bank accounts and never got it, they never say in those sites like posted above, but they put their info in wrong so the money is lost in transit

Nephlabobo · 04-14-2005, 01:01 PM

I only use money orders when I buy stuff from Ebay. They're easy to track. Paypal just seems like a big hassle.

Zod · 04-14-2005, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Bombay

Sometimes you have to go over the heads of paypal. Call your credit card company if you're using a credit of debit card. They WILL get your money back. But they'll also fine paypal. I know a few people who have gotten angry letters from paypal because while paypal settled, they didn't get their money back and ended up paying the fines themselves because they went over paypal's head.

But that's the risk you take in such a business.

I agree completely. Just go over Paypal's heads. They don't own your credit card, nor do the decide the rules of using it. If Paypal attempts to fine you for wanting your money back from a thief, then report their asses to the government for trying to steal your money over the internet, because it is your legal right to have your credit card company recover money taken from you in a crime.

Ebay owns paypal, so if it's an Ebay auction in which Ebay made money off of both the use of Paypal and the fees from the seller, they're less likely to help.

Investor27 · 04-15-2005, 07:07 PM

Thanks for all the opinions, guys. Paypal made use my bank account as the primary source of payment/transactions with my credit card as the backup. They said that if I had it the other way, with my credit card being the primary, my payments to people will be delayed up to 5 business days and my orders will not be shipped until everything is settled.

I know that this is crap now, and I'm going to have my primary source of payments be the credit card, and content any charges from now on through my credit card company as some of you have suggested.

I, too, use Paypal at least a few times every week for the last 3 years or so. The only two times that I have people rip me off, and Paypal agree that it was not my fault, they did not go after these people's account to get my money back.

justin_credible · 04-15-2005, 09:37 PM

I sell and buy on Ebay. Paypal has been good. The only problem I've ever had was I ordered Marvel vs Capcom 2 on Dreamcast and the dude sent me a burned copy, Paypal wouldn't do anything saying I got something. So I guess someone can send you a turd in the mail and they wouldn't interfer saying you got "something" but that's the only time and I've used it hundreds and hundreds of times.

spider-prime · 04-15-2005, 09:59 PM

tell ebay that, if it isn't the item description, they will work with you TRY and get something back and give warnings to the guy and even kick him off ebay and ban his credit card on it so he can't sign back up on it again

Bohemian · 04-18-2005, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nephlabobo

I only use money orders when I buy stuff from Ebay. They're easy to track. Paypal just seems like a big hassle.

yeah, me too.

Seska · 04-18-2005, 10:44 PM

I used paypal a lot when I sold dubiously legit merchandise on Ebay. :D

Generally speaking, if you want to buy or sell stuff on ebay, its the best and fastest way to go, particularly if you want to sell, because everyone and their dog uses paypal. The problems come when your customers file a complaint to paypal, because even the most idiotic noob will get paypal to lock your funds.

In my case, one mistar smarteypants thought he was going to get free stuff from me by reporting me to paypal as selling items that were not as advertised. It was kinda funny, he was totally unreasonable and closed to discussion, because after emailing him my return policies and conditions, he was like "U HAVIN A LAFF M8, IM GANNA REPART YOU AN GETTIN ME CASH BACK NO 1 TAKES ME 4 A RIDE m8"

So yeah, paypal locked my funds and account for a month while they "investigated". The deposit made by the NOOB was locked pending a resolution, but after it all ended I got his cash HARHARHAR!

But yes, be careful with Paypal, if you are a seller withdraw regularly to your bank account. I have seen other sellers get sodomized by bayonet-wileding Paypal nazis for far less, and people with 1000's in cash in their accounts locked for half a year to a year.. while paypal gets rich on that interest.

My 2 cents.

04-13-2005, 07:48 PM	#1
Investor27 Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: US Posts: 679	Anyone here uses Paypal? Man! I have been using Paypal for almost 3 years now. During that time, I have been ripped off twice, filed complaints with Paypal and had them ruled in my favor, but they couldn't do anything about it. The lastest is when I was ripped off for $30. After I had filed a complaint with Paypal, they did some soul-searching and rule in my favor, but they said they couldn't do anything about it. I'm pissed as hell. Has Paypal done this to any of you here?

04-13-2005, 07:52 PM	#2
Dr. Bombay ificouldjustbemorehuman Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Nexus Between Jersey and NYC Posts: 9,208	Sometimes you have to go over the heads of paypal. Call your credit card company if you're using a credit of debit card. They WILL get your money back. But they'll also fine paypal. I know a few people who have gotten angry letters from paypal because while paypal settled, they didn't get their money back and ended up paying the fines themselves because they went over paypal's head. But that's the risk you take in such a business. __________________ ~There's a Door Here, But It Will Not Break~ ~There's a Stone There, But It Won't Remain~ ~Up There's a Heaven Now, But It Will Not Wait~ ~And The Lies There, The Scent Of It, Just Too Much~ ~So Should You~ ~Sow It Once and Make It Grow, The Sweet Clematis~ ~Let It Flower, and Paint it All Of The Colors Old~ Instantly Things Fall and Fade, Return to Silence~ ~Why Oh Why, Why Does It All Feel So Sorrowful?~ ~Dreams Of What Is Real~

04-13-2005, 09:45 PM	#3
Reko8 meow Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: MA, Usa Posts: 3,079	pappal hasnt screwed me once out of all the times me and my brother use it and thats almost all the time. But thats only dealing with ebay and ive paid one to ragnarok. But other stores ive never used paypal. __________________ Actively Playing: Ninja Gaiden 2, Monday Night Combat Last Completed: Resident Evil 5

04-14-2005, 12:59 PM	#8
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04-15-2005, 09:59 PM	#13
spider-prime NOW IN CINEMAPHONIC QUADROVISION! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: I hated going to weddings cause all the grandmas would poke me saying "you're next, you're next". They stopped saying that when I did it to them at Funerals. Posts: 20,398	tell ebay that, if it isn't the item description, they will work with you TRY and get something back and give warnings to the guy and even kick him off ebay and ban his credit card on it so he can't sign back up on it again __________________ Join the Spider-Prime and His Amazing Friends Steam group!

04-14-2005, 01:45 AM	#4
Alucard Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 32,641	You just need to be very careful buying stuff on ebay. And always go to your credit card company and if its within a certain time frame, they'll pull your money back fast.

04-14-2005, 02:54 AM	#5
Paper exe Pwnd Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 8,474	See now that why I cannot buy stuff online because there is no credit card company in my country to begin with.

04-14-2005, 06:45 AM	#6
Escaflowne2001 ... ... ... ... Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thetford, Norfolk, England Posts: 15,243	Always use my Debit Card never had a problem thus far.

04-14-2005, 01:01 PM	#9
Nephlabobo Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Carbombia Posts: 2,689	I only use money orders when I buy stuff from Ebay. They're easy to track. Paypal just seems like a big hassle.

04-15-2005, 07:07 PM	#11
Investor27 Legend Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: US Posts: 679	Thanks for all the opinions, guys. Paypal made use my bank account as the primary source of payment/transactions with my credit card as the backup. They said that if I had it the other way, with my credit card being the primary, my payments to people will be delayed up to 5 business days and my orders will not be shipped until everything is settled. I know that this is crap now, and I'm going to have my primary source of payments be the credit card, and content any charges from now on through my credit card company as some of you have suggested. I, too, use Paypal at least a few times every week for the last 3 years or so. The only two times that I have people rip me off, and Paypal agree that it was not my fault, they did not go after these people's account to get my money back.

04-15-2005, 09:37 PM	#12
justin_credible Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 6,271	I sell and buy on Ebay. Paypal has been good. The only problem I've ever had was I ordered Marvel vs Capcom 2 on Dreamcast and the dude sent me a burned copy, Paypal wouldn't do anything saying I got something. So I guess someone can send you a turd in the mail and they wouldn't interfer saying you got "something" but that's the only time and I've used it hundreds and hundreds of times.

04-18-2005, 10:44 PM	#15
Seska Slurp Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Rain in Spain Posts: 1,756	I used paypal a lot when I sold dubiously legit merchandise on Ebay. :D Generally speaking, if you want to buy or sell stuff on ebay, its the best and fastest way to go, particularly if you want to sell, because everyone and their dog uses paypal. The problems come when your customers file a complaint to paypal, because even the most idiotic noob will get paypal to lock your funds. In my case, one mistar smarteypants thought he was going to get free stuff from me by reporting me to paypal as selling items that were not as advertised. It was kinda funny, he was totally unreasonable and closed to discussion, because after emailing him my return policies and conditions, he was like "U HAVIN A LAFF M8, IM GANNA REPART YOU AN GETTIN ME CASH BACK NO 1 TAKES ME 4 A RIDE m8" So yeah, paypal locked my funds and account for a month while they "investigated". The deposit made by the NOOB was locked pending a resolution, but after it all ended I got his cash HARHARHAR! But yes, be careful with Paypal, if you are a seller withdraw regularly to your bank account. I have seen other sellers get sodomized by bayonet-wileding Paypal nazis for far less, and people with 1000's in cash in their accounts locked for half a year to a year.. while paypal gets rich on that interest. My 2 cents. __________________ Meow.

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