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Old 07-11-2018, 10:40 PM   #1
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Starbucks' straw ban is a big win for the Earth's oceans

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Starbucks' straw ban is a big win for the Earth's oceans
That's a billion fewer single-use straws being thrown away every year.


Those little plastic straws that you get at virtually every restaurant in America have become a huge problem for the world's oceans and Starbucks is finally doing something about it. The global coffeehouse chain announced on Monday that it will immediately begin phasing out plastic drinking straws from its 28,000 stores worldwide and eliminate their availability almost completely by 2020. Given that the company uses around a billion straws every year, that could make a significant difference to the health of our seas.

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Drinking straws are just part of a planet-wide plastic pollution problem. Humans generate around 35 million tons of plastic pollution annually and about a quarter of it -- 9 million tons -- ends up in the ocean, according to a 2015 University of Georgia study published in the journal, Science. Of that, about 2,000 tons (4 percent) is made up of discarded straws. But since these items weigh on average .42 grams (1/67 of an ounce), we're still dealing with billions of individual units. According to Australian scientists Denise Hardesty and Chris Wilcox, some 7.5 million straws litter America's shorelines alone. They estimate that as many as 8.3 billion straws can be found on the world's coastlines.

"For every pound of tuna we're taking out of the ocean, we're putting two pounds of plastic in the ocean," Sherry Lippiatt, California regional coordinator for National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's marine debris program, told the AP.

Our polluting practices have wrought havoc on the marine ecosystem for years but a call for action went out in 2015 when Christine Figgener, a marine biologist at Texas A&M University, posted the following video of a sea turtle having a straw graphically removed from its nostril to YouTube. It's been viewed more than 30 million times since its posting and helped to coalesce public support for banning plastic straws.

"There are several of these single-use items the public is realizing, hey, we don't actually need these," Denise Hardesty, a scientist with Australia's Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, told the Chicago Tribune.

Even so, banning straws should only rectify around 4 percent of the plastic pollution problem, right? "Banning straws is about as important as spitting in the wind," Psychologist Robert Gifford told Grist in July. But the action carries with it a "foot in the door" benefit, he explained. "A lot of social psychology research says that if you get people to say yes to a small request, they are more likely to accede to more serious requests." So by building support for small changes, like banning straws, society should in the future be able to further nurture support for more fundamental environmentally-friendly changes.



In the straws' places, Starbucks is developing a recyclable spouted lid that has been described as an "adult sippy cup." These lids, according the the company, "will become the standard for all iced coffee, tea and espresso beverages." It's already available at 8,000 North American locations for the company's Draft Nitro and Cold Foam drinks. Seattle and Vancouver customers will be the first to see these new lids on all their drinks starting this fall. The rest of the US and Canada will get them by the end of 2019 and the rest of the world will receive them after that.


https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/11/...earths-oceans/
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Old 07-14-2018, 02:01 AM   #2
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Why not just also make a reusable cup that you can bring to the store if you want or let people bring their own instead of wasting. Like reusable store bags, I have a few, useful and better than plastic/paper bags.
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Old 07-14-2018, 05:30 AM   #3
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Pretty sure they do that for coffee. But customers bringing their own stuff can also be a major health issue.

Then there's that one guy who is like "Yes, I'd like a 12 ounce frappuccino pls," and then holds out his stupidly large cup...and then complains when he only gets 12 ounces.

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Old 07-14-2018, 04:47 PM   #4
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We do have places that already do this up here, they just sell their own and they are pretty big and you're supposed to fill them to the top.

But, all the coffee places up here don't that I know of.

Our one theme park in Toronto sells reusable bottles that you can use all year round and when the season is done, you can recycle it.
It really cuts down on the mess.
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In my local coffee shops, if you bring your own cup, usually the server fills up your order in their own cup and then pour into your cup, to prove you get the size you ordered for, but I am not sure if they just throw that cup away after that, it's like you are not saving anything.

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Old 07-14-2018, 10:52 PM   #6
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These are the ones from our theme park. They just let you fill them up yourself and how much you want all year round.

For coffee tho, they could just make timers/set amount so nobody gets more than they should.
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They recently changed the paper straws at my job, I'm not sure if I like them. They tend to stick to my lips. Maybe if they are covered with a coat of wax something to help, but it is def better alternative to plastic.
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They recently changed the paper straws at my job, I'm not sure if I like them. They tend to stick to my lips. Maybe if they are covered with a coat of wax something to help, but it is def better alternative to plastic.
I feel the same way about the paper straws I've tried. In the end, I'm just moving towards drinking things like they were beers whenever I can.
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Don't the new lids they use with the new straws have a lot more plastic in them than the old straws and lid combo? As someone who firmly believes that the ocean needs more plastic, yes I'd say this is a win for the oceans.
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It's not about how much plastic is in them (within reason, obviously. Apparently the straw+top to nitro top difference is 0-0.5g), it's that straws usually don't get recycled because of their size and shape and how the sorters work, whereas tops usually do. So even when people tried to recycle straws, they ended up in landfils anyways since the sorters don't catch them. Plastic tops however aren't a problem.
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Ah, a sippy cup. Works perfectly for this generation. The should've just made it a big nipple and called it a day.
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lol! It's funny cause it's true.
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