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Old 02-18-2012, 05:46 AM   #1
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Ditch consoles, play on PC instead.

Pretty cool article. He pleases the master race. I'll quote a bit, but click the link to read 3 pages of interesting points.

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As all of my brain-spilling over the previous pages will probably tell you, Im a man who values games as a progressive, developing medium. Im not Jimmy FIFA or Johnny Halo. I crave new talent, new ideas, new aesthetics and new ways of seeing games as both fun and art. And the more I think about it, the more I realise that the stuff I want is available in abundance on the PC. Just check out this small (massive) selection of this year's stuff for starters. And then this one.

As much as we gamers moan about the increasing homogenisation of mainstream games, we never acknowledge that the problem is utterly exacerbated on consoles. We ignore the fact that the development freedom that we say we want is happening every day on the PC. We rightly champion the odd console release like Braid or Limbo as a mighty strike for creativity, but there's a raft of stuff in that vein happening all over the PC every day, along with more new IP than you can keep up with. We complain, but we rarely make the leap away from the systems and structures that cause the problems we lambast.

And Im beginning to think I might be ready to.
http://www.gamesradar.com/why-next-g...-to-PC-gaming/

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Old 02-18-2012, 06:16 AM   #2
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I still need my exclusives, so I always end up getting all the consoles. But if a game is offered on PC (and isn't a horrible port or something broken like that), then I'll get it for PC. PC Gaming is the rock of my modern gaming collection.
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:37 AM   #3
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Why ditch one or the other and not just play both.
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:59 AM   #5
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Many console gamers dont play both. They just play console.
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:12 AM   #6
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massive assumption there

i'm pretty sure most, if not all, gamers have a pc/mac, where they have games on

whether it is the "rock of [their] modern gaming collection" is another thing

that being said, i think 80% of my gaming, i've realised, has been on pc recently
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People who just play Minecraft on their PCs aren't 'PC gamers'. If you make a picture on Photoshop, you don't go around calling yourself a graphics designer.

I'd agree with Alucard. People get consoles because they're cheaper and more accessible, and so PC gaming doesn't seem all that welcoming at a first glance. But for a PC gamer, they look down and don't have that same limitation of seeing the consoles as inaccessible and expensive, and so are more likely to pick them up somewhere down the line because of that.



I wonder how many more times we can post that...
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:08 AM   #9
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I'd agree with Alucard. People get consoles because they're cheaper and more accessible, and so PC gaming doesn't seem all that welcoming at a first glance.
from my experience, people also get consoles because of exclusive games
i'm not making an assumptions that is how everyone is, but that's from my observation from people i know

but basically what Drunken Savior said is how i feel
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from my experience, people also get consoles because of exclusive games
i'm not making an assumptions that is how everyone is, but that's from my observation from people i know
Oh yeah, exclusives play a big role in it, every platform has them, but to a young teenager going into GAME to buy a console, or a mum buying their son a game system, etc. would they go for the easy, cheaper console which comes in a big box with bundled games, or the expensive PC with thousands of different combinations of parts they get from a specialist store? I know which one they'll probably go for. PC gaming requires you know more about your hardware, it's generally a lot more involved than console. And before anyone leaps in and says anything, that's not an insult, it's just how it is.

But whereas a PC gamer might nab a console for cheap to play its exclusives, you can't really get a gaming PC for cheap in the same way just for it's exclusive, that's what I mean. People generally don't do that.

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the two main put off from PC as the core system as i see it is

a/ 1st party games from nin/sony/ms
b/ the cost of building a rig compared to a console.


/goes back to playing Wii Xenoblade in FullHD and 60FPS/
For the average consumer, yup, pretty much. If Console gamers saw a full HD 60FPS game, their minds would explode!

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I'd agree with Alucard. People get consoles because they're cheaper and more accessible, and so PC gaming doesn't seem all that welcoming at a first glance. But for a PC gamer, they look down and don't have that same limitation of seeing the consoles as inaccessible and expensive, and so are more likely to pick them up somewhere down the line because of that.
the two main put off from PC as the core system as i see it is

a/ 1st party games from nin/sony/ms
b/ the one off cost of building a rig thats worth while having compared to a console.


/goes back to playing Wii Xenoblade in FullHD and 90FPS/

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PC has plenty of exclusives too so it cancels out. Also not wanting to build a pc because its expensive doesnt work. These days a console gamer goes out and spends around $500 on a system and controllers or whatever extras at least, then they go and buy like 5-10 games at a time. Their libraries are like dozens of games. The expensive argument went out the window when they had plenty of money to spend it on sub par shit that they got just because there werent any big games out and they wanted to play something random, though as stated not something they'd buy if there were better games.
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no it doesnt cancel it out tbh .. Nintendo IP for example >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything on pc tbh for the average gamer. Yeah there some great ex titles on pc, but nothing that the average gamer cares about .. if they did it would be on console as well .. Diablo 3 is a prime example, i'll put good money on the next blizzard MMO being multi platform as well.


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Oh yeah, exclusives play a big role in it, every platform has them, but to a young teenager going into GAME to buy a console, or a mum buying their son a game system, etc. would they go for the easy, cheaper console which comes in a big box with bundled games, or the expensive PC with thousands of different combinations of parts they get from a specialist store? I know which one they'll probably go for. PC gaming requires you know more about your hardware, it's generally a lot more involved than console. And before anyone leaps in and says anything, that's not an insult, it's just how it is.

But whereas a PC gamer might nab a console for cheap to play its exclusives, you can't really get a gaming PC for cheap in the same way just for it's exclusive, that's what I mean. People generally don't do that.
this ^^

but its more the majority of people, not just kids and parents cant be arsed with a pc .. they want to go to the store, buy a box plug it in and go .. the vast majority of gamers couldnt give a crap really about whats under the hood ..
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no it doesnt cancel it out tbh .. Nintendo IP for example >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything on pc tbh for the average gamer. Yeah there some great ex titles on pc, but nothing that the average gamer cares about .. if they did it would be on console as well .. Diablo 3 is a prime example, i'll put good money on the next blizzard MMO being multi platform as well.

I'm afraid it does cancel out. You're of the opinion that nintendo exclusives beat any pc exclusive series. I'm of the opposite opinion because I dont actually enjoy majority, if not all, of nintendo exclusive titles. You might be all shock and wonder at that, but why should I enjoy them just because you as a console gamer for example do? I know plenty of pc gamers who just look at nintendo games and walk away. Nothing to do with them being kiddy or whatever lame excuses some bring up. ITs just not the style of games we'd play.

Where you look at nintendo titles as the be all end all to look forward to, I look forward to other stuff. Total War series, Football Manager series, starcraft, Sims - yes its on consoles but fuck that, the store and everything is pc joy along with all the expansions. Civilization, 'specific MMO', Neverwinter Nights, X series, Amnesia series, Kings Bounty, point and click adventure games, theres really too many to list so with some I used genres instead. I look forward to all of those games about 10 times more then any zelda. And hell if they ever release a Homeworld 3, ALL of nintendos exclusives combined wouldnt keep me from it.

So going on that yes, it cancels out. But still the reason I buy my consoles are for those specific handful of exclusives. But where as I'd play maybe 10-15 games on my ps3, my PC reaches 70.
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