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Old 10-27-2004, 05:57 AM   #1
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Game renders vs the real game itself

As many of you know, companies use rendered screenshots to advertise their games nowadays. Very rarely does a game look as good on your TV (even with component or VGA connection) as it does in the official company renders. We see shots of upcoming games that look awesome like Ninja Gaiden or Gran Turismo 4 and we say "OMG OMG this gmae is gonna r0xorZ OMG OMG I cant beleeve it it looks so gud lololol!". Yes, tht is what we all say, verbatim. Then we get the game and we say "OMG this game looks like teh suXorZ!!! Teh grfx not as gud as they sed! OMG I am gunna shoot myself and my family now!"

Check out a Sony rendered shot for Gran Turismo 4:



And now check out what Gran Turismo 4 looks like on a real PS2 EXACTLY:



It should be noted that the bottom shot is a real video capture from the game. GTA4 will not even support 480p (progressive scan) so it only has an effective resolution of 240 lines at any given time. The above shot was not sized down at all, and yes, it will have the black border. Due to overscan on most TV's, you most likely will not see the black border.

But PS2 is not the only ystem guilty of this! Tecmo LOVES to do it too. Check out Dead or Alive X-Treme Beach Volleyball.

First, the render:



And now the real game on a real Xbox (in widescreen mode)




Once again this is the size of the real game image. No black borders, but also no anti-aliasing either. Just look at all the jaggies everywhere! Yuck! The rendered shot is extremely doctored.

My whole point:
Don't judge game graphics by the screens you see in magazines and on the internet. They are most likely doctored/rendered. The game will only rarely look as good as the pics you see. Yes, there are indeed exceptions. Just not enough.
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:24 AM   #2
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Is the last picture done in 480P?
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Old 10-27-2004, 08:24 AM   #3
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Wow. Can't wait to see how DoAU looks in comparison to the renders Tecmo feeds out. Actually, I'll find out today. I did watch my brother play it on his OXM demo disc.
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Old 10-27-2004, 09:29 AM   #4
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Yo Joe! Can you explain how a company creates a rendered shot?
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Old 10-27-2004, 09:59 AM   #5
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MGS3 is also a good example of what Joe is talking about. Those Screens are just too clean.
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Old 10-27-2004, 10:13 AM   #6
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Indeed.

However, the game still looks great and the ingame shown at TGS which looks comparibly ****ty on REAL player, still looks impressive. We shall see.
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Wow. Can't wait to see how DoAU looks in comparison to the renders Tecmo feeds out. Actually, I'll find out today. I did watch my brother play it on his OXM demo disc.

He played a video or a Demo? I havn't gotten my december issue yet (those cock bites) so I don't know what's on it.
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Old 10-27-2004, 11:32 AM   #8
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For the DOA the screen you showed was quite small and the game actually looks like the first screen. Also you need to check the screens well to see before making your judgements. And for most games on xbox you need to check just what version it is as in maybe standard tv ,component or HDTV.
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Old 10-27-2004, 12:45 PM   #9
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Not to incite the flames of War here
but DOA U looks as good as the So Called "render"
I own the game so I have room to speak I don't have a Widescreen I have an RCA set up and even then my games look good almost as good as the so called "renders"

I cannot speak for GT4 but it would make sense it not look as good as the shots sony has been giving us. SImply becuase the PS2 doesn't have that power.

Microsoft,Tecmo and whom ever delvelops for them need not put out "Renders"

as an example Rallisport Challenge 2 looks as good as it's screen shots.

You can't just post a screen and say it looks like crap because people that own the game and have seen it in motion know better.

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Old 10-27-2004, 01:16 PM   #10
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My whole point:
Don't judge game graphics by the screens you see in magazines and on the internet. They are most likely doctored/rendered. The game will only rarely look as good as the pics you see. Yes, there are indeed exceptions. Just not enough.
This is his point dumbass!

It's like looking a Playboy. The pics are so doctored up they make the girls look perfect but once you see them in real life they have blemishes and mole etc... I once met Jenny McCarthy when she first posed in Playboy. Although she was very good looking in person you could tell she was air brushed for her magazine layout.
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This is his point dumbass!

It's like looking a Playboy. The pics are so doctored up they make the girls look perfect but once you see them in real life they have blemishes and mole etc... I once met Jenny McCarthy when she first posed in Playboy. Although she was very good looking in person you could tell she was air brushed for her magazine layout.
Well I don't see a game cube example?

and I already Debunked DOA X

most games look as good as their shots.

Playboy and Games are different things (well there's that Playboy game which will suck)

I'd say 80% of games are as good looking as their screen shots.
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Old 10-27-2004, 03:25 PM   #12
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At least the Tecmo renders and in game shots are fairly close in quality. The GT series, the difference has always been great. I have always felt that Tecmo has released a bunch of in game shots as well, when they send out preview shots and were never trying to trick people into thinking the game looked better than it actually was.


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I really don';t think Tecmo uses "renders" the games look quite good on their own.
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Old 10-27-2004, 04:32 PM   #14
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At least the Tecmo renders and in game shots are fairly close in quality. The GT series, the difference has always been great. I have always felt that Tecmo has released a bunch of in game shots as well, when they send out preview shots and were never trying to trick people into thinking the game looked better than it actually was.


is she sitting on that hippo?
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Old 10-27-2004, 04:51 PM   #15
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BlindMaphisto ~ "He played a video or a Demo? I havn't gotten my december issue yet (those cock bites) so I don't know what's on it"

Yeah, the demo disc actually sucks except for DoAU. It was supposed to come out here today but isn't coming out 'till tommorrow. Those bastards!

1337haxxor ~ "is she sitting on that hippo?"

No, Hitomi just smashed Tina's sh*t and she got slammed into it.
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