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Old 01-04-2012, 03:57 AM   #526
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The thing that irks me is I literally have to defend my opinion from rabid Whedon fans who refuse to let anyone in the world criticise anything he's ever done. It's ridiculous.
Well...what did you expect. You said:

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Avengers is going to be terrible. Joss Whedon is one of the worst writers in existence, every single one of his shows is completely overrated.
That's not really an opinion, as you didn't state it as such. You presented it as if it were a fact. An opinion would have sounded like:

I think Avengers is going to be terrible. To me Joss Whedon is one of the worst writers in existence. In my eyes, every single one of his shows is completely overrated.

So yeah....learn how to state an opinion if you wish to do so. Trying to martyr yourself at this point is kind of pointless as your own poor wording dug you into this hole....as it seems to do every time you state an 'opinion.'
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Old 01-04-2012, 05:17 AM   #527
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but he hasn't seen toy story but hates it and doesn't want to see it ????

HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU NOT LIKE TOY STORY?????


ohh i have no idea or Whedon is nor did i know he wrote toy story, before i'm called a rabid fanboy
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Old 01-04-2012, 08:59 AM   #528
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Yeah, I don't get it either. Whedon is one of four writers of that movie, and it sounds like he had the least involvement in the final product. He certainly wasn't important enough to be hired back to write Toy Story 2 or 3. The fact that he's even getting credit for writing Toy Story reeks of WGA (Writer's Guild of America, the union) involvement, to be honest. I have no proof, but it's just my gut feeling that he got credit for writing Toy Story on a technicality.

Sounds moreso like Andrew Stanton did the bulk of the writing for all the Toy Story movies.
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:56 AM   #529
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Plenty of his things are sort of pallet swaps of each other. If you look at his characters in almost all the series he's done he's always got the strong female, the cool headed male, a few others, but always and I mean ALWAYS the one character I like to call the Whedon character. He's the one who just has non stop 1 liners and is nothing but comedy relief. This character actually fucks me off because he ruins most of whatever is happening. He's done some good stuff, but I can think of way better writers.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:29 AM   #530
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Plenty of his things are sort of pallet swaps of each other. If you look at his characters in almost all the series he's done he's always got the strong female, the cool headed male, a few others, but always and I mean ALWAYS the one character I like to call the Whedon character. He's the one who just has non stop 1 liners and is nothing but comedy relief. This character actually fucks me off because he ruins most of whatever is happening. He's done some good stuff, but I can think of way better writers.
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Old 01-04-2012, 01:06 PM   #531
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:03 PM   #532
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but he hasn't seen toy story but hates it and doesn't want to see it ????

HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU NOT LIKE TOY STORY?????
I never said I didn't like it.

I just said I haven't seen it. I've seen Cars and Monsters Inc. I just haven't gotten around to it.

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So yeah....learn how to state an opinion if you wish to do so. Trying to martyr yourself at this point is kind of pointless as your own poor wording dug you into this hole....as it seems to do every time you state an 'opinion.'
Fair enough. The problem is no matter how you word it, Whedon fans just jump down your throat the very second you say anything negative at all.
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:14 PM   #533
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Believe it or not, most people don't give two shits about your, or my, opinion of anything. It's whenever you try to make an all-encompassing remarks as if they were truths that indirectly says something about the person you are talking to that gets people riled up.

Regarding Toy Story, you did say "Never seen Toy Story, thanks for letting me know. Now I can skip it. " once you were told it was written by Joss Whedon. You probably thought you were being hill-larious though when you posted it and probably enjoyed fanning the flames a little on the subject.
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:30 PM   #534
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I never said I didn't like it.

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you did say "Never seen Toy Story, thanks for letting me know. Now I can skip it. "
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:32 PM   #535
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And honestly, you don't want to die not having seen Toy Story but having seen Cars. That's like dying and the only beer you've ever had was Bud Light.
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:34 PM   #536
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Believe it or not, most people don't give two shits about your, or my, opinion of anything. It's whenever you try to make an all-encompassing remark that indirectly says something about the person you are talking to that gets people riled up.
We do it all the time. Sometimes in an effort to be funny, unintentionally, or completely on purpose. The vast majority of people on the internet speak casually, meaning they don't apply any type of social filter to ensure their remarks are politically correct or inoffensive to others. Posting on a message board is a lot like socializing in grade school. People will often throw fits and whine if you don't agree with them regardless of how you state the opinion and most often it's okay to be a bully and make fun of people (see trolling), or to be an asshole in general, provided it is humorous to those around you, otherwise you are being a dick and no one likes you.

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Also, everyone loves Toy Story.....unless you were raped by your Uncle with a GI Joe or something as a kid....THEN I can understand why the movie might not be to your liking...
See? We all make all-encompassing remarks, and often times we even throw out something that makes direct implication of something socially shunned should someone fail to fall in line with our opinion. Einhander isn't any kind of exception. Looking back on the thread, very few opinions are clearly stated as such.
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Old 01-04-2012, 03:37 PM   #537
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You honestly think I really believe that the only reason for one to not like Toy Story was undesired anal GI Joe insertion? There were lots of toys in that movie.
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Old 01-04-2012, 04:57 PM   #538
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thats why my bro hates Toy Story ... but it was the much larger action man figure
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you did say "Never seen Toy Story, thanks for letting me know. Now I can skip it. "
Yeah, because of the writer. But I never said I hadn't watched it because I didn't like it so
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