The MagicBox Forums  

Go Back   The MagicBox Forums > General Topics > Community Board

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-06-2012, 04:16 AM   #46
Badrats Studio
Hate it or Love it ヽ(̀ώ )ゝ✧
 
Badrats Studio's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Medan, Sumatera Utara, Republic Indonesia, South-East Asia
Posts: 4,215
Quote:
Originally Posted by eastx View Post
Journalists are the faces of their companies.
Very true. Personal ego / preference cannot be using when one is currently representing a company when he/she's speaking in public. There is a responsibility.

IMO, that guy can just state a public apology and everyone can move on. Unfortunately, each company has their own playbook.
__________________
"That was my best friend. And you've just killed him !"
- quote from Superman / : Public Enemies
PSN ID : Rezqiano-INA
Currently Playing : Eternal Sonata [PS3] - God Of War Ascension [PS3]
Badrats Studio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2012, 04:36 PM   #47
IoriYagami n8
Pinkerton
 
IoriYagami n8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: A steampunk fantasy land...
Posts: 2,955
Quote:
Originally Posted by eastx View Post
Nice comment, Nem. Good job. Disappointed at Stroop for the unusually ill-informed viewpoint.
I'm not Nem.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ernst View Post
In advance, sorry for the elongated post...

Sorry if my post seemed combative, as it was actually meant in general agreement with yours. I hadn't meant to suggest you were calling him misogynistic. However, you raise various more intricate points here...
I just your post short simply because I didn't see the need to repost it all. If people are really interested they can go back and read it. I will keep this brief as the issue seems fairly simple. It all comes down to word interpretation. Such as when you use my example of "cum guzzling twat" as a potential homosexual slur. My intent would be that by saying "twat" I'm implying the statement toward a female, otherwise I would have been better served by saying "cum guzzling fag" as the purpose of the insult isn't to draw attention to sexual preference or gender, it's to imply the person I speak it to guzzles cum, a rather lewd and demeaning act.

Similar to the bimbo statement you reference. Bimbo is a word with several meanings, one could simply mean a disreputable man, while other would be a morally loose woman, and a third simply an inept person. When used toward a woman, the interpretation most people will associate would be the one involving a woman of loose morals, it's arguably the most common use of the word these days, and given that the word is spoken to a female it has merit to easily be seen in that light. You could argue that you simply mean an inept person, and then simply apologize for a poor choice of words.

That's all it takes really. As a writer, journalist, or whatever. It should be expected that the person has enough mastery over the language that they would choose their words carefully to ensure their points are concise and without misinterpretation. Unless you are into a field like politics, then you try to be as vague as possible so you can move around different interpretations in order to suit your needs. In the case of Ryan Perez, his intent may not have been sexist, but the point is that his comments can clearly be interpreted in such a way, and as someone that would claim to be a journalist, he should know to better articulate his points in the public forum.

Beyond that, even if we assume that his comments could not in any way be interpreted as sexist, there is still grounds for his being fired. Companies typically will want to speak well of other people within their industry as they may wish to collaborate with them in some way in the future. If Destructoid wanted to work with Felicia Day at some point down the road, having one of their writers publicly insulting her would not increase the likelihood of her being willing to work with them. That's how the professional world works. If you are important enough in your field, you can get away with a good bit, but eventually there is a line for everyone, some just reach it sooner than others.
__________________
Steampunk sex kittens!
IoriYagami n8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2012, 04:59 PM   #48
eastx
The Fighting Bomber
 
eastx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lake Jackson, TX USA
Posts: 4,569
Quote:
Originally Posted by IoriYagami n8 View Post
I'm not Nem.
Neither am I. But I see your point. In any case, good job understanding and explaining the issue to our mysogynistic fellow forum-goers.
eastx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2012, 06:37 PM   #49
Ernst
Registered User
 
Ernst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 948
@Iori

Quote:
You could argue that you simply mean an inept person, and then simply apologize for a poor choice of words.
This is to advocate for a system in which all words used which could be misconstrued must at all costs be avoided, and it's a system I would reject entirely. I won't be limited in my word choice, and more seriously, fired if I accidentally use a word which could be misconstrued. Too many words have a double meaning which could be offensive if one wished to take it offensively. Much better we simply, rationally work out the intention than hysterically call out anyone who has used a word which could possibly be offensive.

As for the word twat. Being that I live in Britain, this word is used commonly and almost always toward men. It's a very slight insult.
Ernst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2012, 01:26 AM   #50
eastx
The Fighting Bomber
 
eastx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lake Jackson, TX USA
Posts: 4,569

http://sci-ence.org/on-playing-well-with-others/
eastx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2012, 04:11 AM   #51
spider-prime
NOW IN CINEMAPHONIC QUADROVISION!
 
spider-prime's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: I hated going to weddings cause all the grandmas would poke me saying "you're next, you're next". They stopped saying that when I did it to them at Funerals.
Posts: 21,030
This is why I'm going to get my niece to start talking into the mic when I'm playing so everyone think she is playing. It's going to be hilarious the reactions. I'm going to record it when I do it.

I've done this before with my girlfriends before, but it will be funnier with a little kid. I tell them what to say tho, cause they suck at insulting people!
spider-prime is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2012, 04:32 AM   #52
Alucard
Registered User
 
Alucard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 32,639
You know there was little hate against girls when I was growing up with games. Us 30 year olds actually enjoyed playing with girls. Come the xbox generation and kids with mics, its all over. 25 and under, mainly 19 and under, come off as super douchy. The arcades, when there used to be arcades, plenty of girls grouped with us around the KOF and SF machines. And they kicked major arse too.

Also girls should probably mention how they get given shitloads of attention and help in MMOs etc while they're at it. You know, why mention just the bad parts.
Alucard is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.