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Ryan Perez fired from Destructoid
Former Destructoid writer Ryan Perez lashes out at gaming enthusiast Felicia Day
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His original Tweets. ![]() http://mundanematt.tumblr.com/post/2...ut-felicia-day ^Phone interview with Perez about what happen. I personally think he was a jerk for what he said. Why gaming has celebrities outside developers boggles my mind (to a point). I'm laughing because this is news. |
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So here's the problem. They absolutely have reason to be pissed at this guy's sexism, but the article once again goes way beyond the scope of that. There is NOTHING sexist about those tweets. Nothing. The other stuff, YES. It's like when Bill Maher calls Sarah Palin a bimbo. He doesn't get fired. This is ridiculous. What is it with this? And the way the article paints the interview as two misogynists bonding is absurd. It shows how you aren't allowed to dissent from the popular opinion anymore without being called a misogynist. Sad state of affairs.
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Destructoid made a Tweet saying they let go of Perez. Isn't there rules against that?
Twitter, Facebook, etc. all of it seems to be an instant hazard for people. There will always be people to disagree with and all it is doing is playing "sides". |
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... is there rampant misogyny in the Industry? I must have missed it.
Well I think he's a bit of a dick for calling her out like that, but he has got a point, as has Mundane Matt, whoever he is; girl gamers seem to get idolised more than they should simply because they're girls and get special treatment. Some capitalise on this, some don't, but it's there. I see it a lot when playing with my female friends online. If Felicia Day was a fat, bald, ugly guy would she still have this 'celebrity' status? I doubt she would. Just make a female character in an MMO and watch how much free stuff you get from guys and how different you're treated. It's laughable. It's not sexist to point this out and he's not guilty of being sexist, he's just guilty of being a bit of an arse.
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There's rampant sexism in the industry- it's institutional. But his tweets were not sexist. Maybe she is a glorified booth babe- it's not sexist to point that out. A dysphemism for someone who got where they are for the way they look/act. Vapid. It's RIDUCLOUS. And whilst there's this sort of deluge of criticism for anything that even resembles sexism, the actual sexism gets to go ignored in the flux.
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She has the video game celebrity status because she makes a webseries about gaming. Hell, she's been an actress for a long time and she's been on TV shows like House, Eureka and the like. Of course she's a video game celebrity. Not that many actresses are vocal about their hobbies and I think she's a positive role model for young female gamers.
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NOW IN CINEMAPHONIC QUADROVISION!
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There is only one celebrity that matters in all of the whole world and history.... Bruce Lee and perhaps Jackie Chan. Fuck all the rest.
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THERE IS NO BATHROOM!
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Meh, girls and gaming. There are more important issues than this. It's attention whoring enough to bring attention to a matter like this but until women stop behaving the way they do. There is no reason not to generalise. There are those who do capitalize on it, but really. If you are to look back on this situation in the future. In the end, some one lost his job and women just gave themselves more reason to feel smug about themselves.
Also Bruce Lee
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Dude, Jackie chan would make an awesome booth babe. Remember him in street fighter?
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In the movie industry celebrities come and typically stay. When you're talking gaming celebrities your real goal is to mention Game Developers and those who work hard making the games what they are. This fiasco is all on the small group that work off the scenes who are make a living from it. And there is nothing wrong with that.
But what is a joke is that if she had been, say a Hollywood Actor or Musician he wouldn't of been fired. Say, @Madonna. Besides most of those developer's crude humor and so forth on Twitter do not get recognized by their company is a shame too. They're just as guilty. I feel as though this was making fun of the Video Game's sibling, aka "a friend in the industry". Girls should game, but whats forthcoming is how it relates. Pro girls understand games.. woohoo.. what's next? It gets a tad redundant after a while. They look just as nerdy as we do, sometimes more. No pun intended. |
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THERE IS NO BATHROOM!
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Not if I pee on the fire with nonchalant effort.
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I think a part of the idea comes from the blow out over that whole Cross Assault thing. But in general people tend to be hyper sensitive on the issue.
For the most part, his comments are simply ignorant. When he makes a comparison to her as a glorified booth babe that is probably where he goes a bit far. I understand what he is trying to say, but it comes across in a manner that implies something derogatory. Each of the three statements above are asking the same thing. The first one, while perhaps rude, doesn't seem inappropriate. The second, sounds increasingly bitter. The third just sounds angry. He could have easily just stopped at the first one and gotten his point across. That said, I can't say I agree with him. Does Felicia Day write articles about upcoming games or review them? Not heavily. I believe she has made recommendations based on what she enjoys or is excited about which carries over to her fans. Beyond that, she tends to promote "geek culture" through her roles on television and in other media. She often does so without wearing a bikini or acting slutty. So one could see her as a good role model for "geek girls." In that sense, she makes younger girls more comfortable within the gaming community as a whole. So yes, I would say she does something more for the industry than simply being a cute face. On the other hand, what about Ryan Perez? He writes articles reviewing and previewing games, related media, and devices. What does he do for the industry? He promotes things and gives consumers a wider point of view regarding potential products. Yet thanks to forums like this, more and more of that info is spread through discussion with actual gamers, and not reviewers. So really, gaming journalist don't do much more than your average forum going gamer, they just get an early hands-on. Anyone into the hobby that can write at a college level could easy deliver the kind of content seen on most gaming websites. So really, it seems kind of dumb to me that someone who does so little for the industry should point fingers at someone else and make that type of accusation.
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You see, Iori, your critiques of this random guy are all perfectly valid. But he's not a misogynist based on those tweets. That's the problem here. The willingness of these people to fling around the misogynist label every time someone insults a woman. This is counter-productive for the feminist cause. You can't be considered equal if people use your gender to defend you every time you're attacked.
PS- I have literally nothing against this woman. I have no idea who she is. |
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I find Felicia Day being attractive, sexy, funny, and all that. But I was jealous when she got to introduce BioShock Infinite at the VGAs.
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