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rogue_gamecube
09-28-2004, 07:29 AM
Well, unless you haven't already read this on any psp fan site out there, I'll link you to a more tasteful news post: Make with the clicking already! (http://www.n-philes.com/index.php?Id=301)

Oh, and since most of you were asleep when Gamespot broke the news, all you have now is a weak attempt to try and redeem themselves from Sony... (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2004/09/25/news_6108839.html) Rumour #3 for those with weak attention spans...

Well, what do you think? Real? Fake? Nintendo fan-boy's wishful thinking that just so happened to get posted on Gamespot first? You can probably already guess my opinion, not like you're going to listen to it :annoyed:... Well, IMO, this is probably correct in that a Gamespot employee broke a NDA about the PSP pricing, but may have over-exaggerated the figures as the news went on. I can very well see the $300 pricetag, with a crapload of extra's and memory stick for music, but $350 is a lil too high. Unless Sony has simply given up caring what it does and gone with the PS2 methodology. Won't work here, since there's no commodity that everyone wants like a DVD player used to be. And I can get an iPod cheaper than that, which comes with a guranteed status symbol. I mean, why else would you drop $300+ on a portable console other than it being the latest "k0ol" thing? Ugh, my words go on deaf ears. The outcome of this thread will probably dictate if I actually post again, but it doesn't matter. Off you go now, to your little bitch world in your bitch tent, shoo! :kill: :crazy:

Paper exe
09-28-2004, 08:17 AM
:rolleyes: I will buy it anyway


PS:I hate sony and I love nintendo and I think DS is 100797687 times better, but alot of pepole like sony with out any reason so 3rd partys will release alot of games for PSP :too mad:

hgblob
09-28-2004, 08:28 AM
Well, I was on holiday with no online access at all, so I missed reading the article. Was it clarified that the price is for Japan only, or for US as well?

I can very well see the $300 pricetag, with a crapload of extra's and memory stick for music, but $350 is a lil too high.

Then again, electronics devices in Japan are always more expensive than in the US. So, even if the PSP will be sold in Japan for the equivalent price of US$350, it does not necessarily mean that its US pricetag will also be US$350.

Nindalf
09-28-2004, 09:24 AM
That Gamespot thing?was kinda funny. It was sposted at Penny-Arcade forums, but soon Gamespot took it down and says it never happened. But people saw it... tsk tsk tsk...

Stupid Gamespot. Hurhur!

Reality
09-28-2004, 11:46 AM
Yeah. The was a funny move from Gamespot wasn't it?

Dr. Bombay
09-28-2004, 11:53 AM
PFFT. Well thank you sony. You've made my decision for me. On November 11th, I'm going to gamestop, picking up my DS, then going to comp USA and picking up an I-POD.

Oh, and anyone who said the DS would release for less than 250 can now offically go eat crow.

sharky~
09-28-2004, 01:05 PM
so what is the price tag on DS now?

Dr. Bombay
09-28-2004, 01:18 PM
As of Pre-TGS, 149.99

Dr. Bombay
09-28-2004, 01:24 PM
Rumor #3: The PSP will cost 33,000 yen--approximately $300.

Source: UK game site SPOnG.

The official story: "Official pricing for the PSP has not been announced, and any information in this regard is only speculation," a Sony spokesperson said.

What we heard: The SPOnG article attributed the price to a statement by SCEE Germany Managing Director Manfred Gerdes, but did not say where he said it or in what context. Regardless, Sony officials have been aggressively denying the comments attributed to Gerdes, contacting numerous online media outlets to say "we appreciate you not reporting on and perpetuating this incorrect information on your Web site." However, a $300 price point for the PSP is in tune with numerous analyst predictions, which could mean that Sony's PR effort is more damage control than debunking. Then again, maybe not.

Bogus or not bogus?: Officially bogus--until Sony says otherwise.

I found this very very funny.

Reality
09-28-2004, 02:07 PM
PFFT. Well thank you sony. You've made my decision for me. On November 11th, I'm going to gamestop, picking up my DS, then going to comp USA and picking up an I-POD.

Oh, and anyone who said the DS would release for less than 250 can now offically go eat crow.

A iPod eh? Neat-o. What size? I got the 15gig unit.

Black Sugar
09-28-2004, 05:43 PM
If the price is indeed true, Sony didn't learn anything with the failure of the PSX.

Reality
09-28-2004, 06:06 PM
But it's not like people wont still buy it right? There seems to be a few people here still full willing to pay $300 for the handheld. There people who paid $500 for the PS2 alone. It's my opinion Sony thinks they are pretty big stuff and think people will pay whatever to have what they make. And in some cases people very much do.

Dr. Bombay
09-28-2004, 06:11 PM
A iPod eh? Neat-o. What size? I got the 15gig unit.

20, now that the 20 gigs are 300

Reality
09-28-2004, 06:21 PM
20, now that the 20 gigs are 300

Very nice. Oh hey, might also want to get a Apple Care for that ($50 I think) I know I need to get it, my brother dropped my iPod on it's screen. :annoyed: Oh also, if you buy from Apple's online store you can get a laser inscription put on the back. That's what I did with mine. It reads:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Jedediah/MyiPod.jpg

Black Sugar
09-28-2004, 06:34 PM
But it's not like people wont still buy it right? There seems to be a few people here still full willing to pay $300 for the handheld. There people who paid $500 for the PS2 alone. It's my opinion Sony thinks they are pretty big stuff and think people will pay whatever to have what they make. And in some cases people very much do.
The PSX didn't work, and one reason why it didn't was the price. 300$ is too much to ask even for PS2 fans in my opinion.

Reality
09-28-2004, 06:45 PM
The PSX didn't work, and one reason why it didn't was the price. 300$ is too much to ask even for PS2 fans in my opinion.

Yeah you are right. The PSX was pretty much a bomb. The kept lowering the spechs and not the price. Kinda like what they are doing with the PSP but yet, still, people are vastly more intent on owning it then what the PSX was attracting.

ovejon
09-28-2004, 06:47 PM
Very nice. Oh hey, might also want to get a Apple Care for that ($50 I think) I know I need to get it, my brother dropped my iPod on it's screen. :annoyed: Oh also, if you buy from Apple's online store you can get a laser inscription put on the back. That's what I did with mine. It reads:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/Jedediah/MyiPod.jpg

If you buy an ipod at comp usa, you should get the extended 2 year warranty by comp usa. They replace ure unit no question asked :D. I wanted to buy my ipod over at the apple store, but they dont send to Puerto Rico. I envy you, being able to get laser inscription on ure ipod.

Reality
09-28-2004, 06:49 PM
If you buy an ipod at comp usa, you should get the extended 2 year warranty by comp usa. They replace ure unit no question asked :D. I wanted to buy my ipod over at the apple store, but they dont send to Puerto Rico. I envy you, being able to get laser inscription on ure ipod.

Haha well, though it was really cool getting that saying only us geeks a dorks understand. I sure wouldn't have mind getting a 2 year warranty.

Black Jesus
09-28-2004, 06:50 PM
:rolleyes: I will buy it anyway


PS:I hate sony and I love nintendo and I think DS is 100797687 times better, but alot of pepole like sony with out any reason so 3rd partys will release alot of games for PSP :too mad:


whats your reason to buy the PSP then if "people like sony for no reason", since your still gonna buy it and all...

"However, a $300 price point for the PSP is in tune with numerous analyst predictions"

fcuk an analyst "prediction", if it hasnt came from Sony id rather the bullsh!t not even be posted...with that said, ill say this again, POST THE DAMN PRICE ALREADY!, sony you a$$holes, get it right, dont you see all the confusion you guys are causing? but then again...its sony, they really dont give a sh!t about what we want as long as they think in the long run it will benefit them....cant blame em, though i am kinda frustrated as of now...

TheHardware
09-28-2004, 10:37 PM
Yeah you are right. The PSX was pretty much a bomb. The kept lowering the spechs and not the price. Kinda like what they are doing with the PSP but yet, still, people are vastly more intent on owning it then what the PSX was attracting.


what specs have been lowered...err...i think they have delivered on everything they said they would.....could you please posta link to this information you are refering to...thank you

Reality
09-28-2004, 11:01 PM
The only info I got it's not pulling the power they said it does is from my eyes. From what was shown at E3 to what was shown at TGS.

Dr. Bombay
09-28-2004, 11:05 PM
what specs have been lowered...err...i think they have delivered on everything they said they would.....could you please posta link to this information you are refering to...thank you

A ton of firmware was removed from the PSX while it was being sold. It took 6 months for Sony to release a patch that allowed the PSX to play CD-R/CD-R/DVD-RW discs. They also cut the size of the harddrive from 250 to 120 at it's initial release. All of this has been rectified, but it doesn't matter. Sony has already released another DVD for literally 1/5th the price and 3 times the features.

Rubeus
09-29-2004, 12:47 AM
Game Watch posted an interview with Ken Kutaragi, he said PSP will be sold at a loss initially, the price is expected between 19800 to 24800 yen ($198 - $248).

Dr. Bombay
09-29-2004, 12:54 AM
Expected by whom though?

Reality
09-29-2004, 12:54 AM
Game Watch posted an interview with Ken Kutaragi, he said PSP will be sold at a loss initially, the price is expected between 19800 to 24800 yen ($198 - $248).

Hmm, I'm not very sure what good selling that type of hardware at a loss like that for 10 years will do for Sony.

Messanic
09-29-2004, 02:42 AM
Game Watch posted an interview with Ken Kutaragi, he said PSP will be sold at a loss initially, the price is expected between 19800 to 24800 yen ($198 - $248).


As much as I'd like to believe you Rubeus, the psp would do better if it was sold at a loss of $150 of the $300 it will cost. Ken and Kaz continue to lead us on and put thier feet in thier mouths, making those interested in the psp look like jack asses as well as themselves.

hgblob
09-29-2004, 02:51 AM
Game Watch posted an interview with Ken Kutaragi, he said PSP will be sold at a loss initially, the price is expected between 19800 to 24800 yen ($198 - $248).

Hmm. That sounds about right for a US launch price. Could you post a link to the interview?

Hmm, I'm not very sure what good selling that type of hardware at a loss like that for 10 years will do for Sony.

10 years? How did you arrive at that time period?

[M]egaman Ver.6
09-29-2004, 03:38 AM
Hopefully good ol Kuta will make sure the price is low and take the inital shot in the leg. Lord knows PSP needs the lower price.

Reality
09-29-2004, 03:39 AM
10 years? How did you arrive at that time period?

I got it from here. http://www.pgnx.net/news.php?page=full&id=4806

Black Jesus
09-29-2004, 03:42 AM
Expected by whom though?

analyst "prediction"?.................... :rolleyes:

sound alot better then 300 dollars though, thats for sure....still not officail though, so it really doesnt matter...

[M]egaman Ver.6
09-29-2004, 03:45 AM
ANALysts what do they know? :annoyed:

Drunken Savior
09-29-2004, 03:51 AM
If the PSP costs $350 and you don't think it'll sell....you, like Nintendo, underestimate the power of advertising.

[M]egaman Ver.6
09-29-2004, 03:52 AM
If the PSP costs $350 and you don't think it'll sell....you, like Nintendo, underestimate the power of advertising.

Sony's gonna advertise PSP with naked women?

hgblob
09-29-2004, 03:57 AM
I got it from here. http://www.pgnx.net/news.php?page=full&id=4806

*reads article*

The 10 year figure stated in that article refers to the PSP's life cycle. And last I checked, saying "10-year life cycle" =/= "10 years of losses".

So I still don't see how you could claim that the PSP would be a lossy product for 10 years. Heck, the article even stated that the latter half of the handheld's life cycle was expected to be profitable.

EDIT: Rereading the article, I realised that its title ("Sony Expects a Loss on PSP Hardware") was very misleading.

[M]egaman Ver.6
09-29-2004, 03:58 AM
Of course 10 years wouldn't equal 10 years of losses it's more like 2-3 years of losses and 7-8 of profit. :spinface:

Black Jesus
09-29-2004, 03:58 AM
egaman Ver.6']Sony's gonna advertise PSP with naked women?

lol, yeah, havent you heard, its comming prepacked with "The Guy Game"...thats about 3467836398 units right there....

Drunken Savior
09-29-2004, 04:00 AM
No, some little kid holding a PSP next to a naked woman. And then next to him will be another kid holding a DS with his mother wiping his face with a spitcovered hankie.

Seriously though, advertising will sell the PSP even at that price. Nintendo should remember to save some of their DS budget for advertising worldwide to give their DS instant recognition.

Paper exe
09-29-2004, 04:12 AM
peper exe~PS:I hate sony and I love nintendo and I think DS is 100797687 times better, but alot of pepole like sony with out any reason

Black Jesus~whats your reason to buy the PSP then if "people like sony for no reason", since your still gonna buy it and all...

peper exe~so 3rd partys will release alot of games for PSP


PS:next time please read all my post :annoyed:

Black Jesus
09-29-2004, 04:14 AM
peper exe~PS:I hate sony and I love nintendo and I think DS is 100797687 times better, but alot of pepole like sony with out any reason

Black Jesus~

peper exe~so 3rd partys will release alot of games for PSP


PS:next time please read all my post :annoyed:

sorry paper...i will next time... :P

j_factor
09-29-2004, 04:32 AM
sheesh. Game Gear was never even close to that expensive (it was what, 180 at launch?), and it was always blasted for its price. bah.

TheHardware
09-29-2004, 08:25 AM
great news everyone....my ex girlfriend always goes home for christmas (home is japan)...and guess what shes bringing back for meeee........i will be the first kid on my block with a psp...best part..her familys got a constuction company in japan (mucho denero)...so she doesnt care about the cost.....heeeeeeeee

Entertainer
09-29-2004, 11:29 AM
I know I'm getting a DS right away because it has a good price, and some of the games look really cool, but for the PSP 300-350 is way too much for me for a handheld. If it's price gets dropped to 250-200, and it has a strong library of games, i'll definately reconsider. The game footage was surprising, I was expecting it to be a bit more powerfull, but oh well, it still blows away the DS graphic wise.

Dr. Bombay
09-29-2004, 11:41 AM
great news everyone....my ex girlfriend always goes home for christmas (home is japan)...and guess what shes bringing back for meeee........i will be the first kid on my block with a psp...best part..her familys got a constuction company in japan (mucho denero)...so she doesnt care about the cost.....heeeeeeeee

...what about that whole region coding thing?

Dr. Bombay
09-29-2004, 11:43 AM
egaman Ver.6']Sony's gonna advertise PSP with naked women?

Cause that's what it would take.

That and hot lesbian action.

Entertainer
09-29-2004, 12:42 PM
I also hear that they will package porn with the PSP to hype it up as the sexiest system ever

Black Sugar
09-29-2004, 12:47 PM
what specs have been lowered...err...i think they have delivered on everything they said they would.....could you please posta link to this information you are refering to...thank you

http://www.esato.com/archive/t.php/t-45543

Reality
09-29-2004, 01:29 PM
great news everyone....my ex girlfriend always goes home for christmas (home is japan)...and guess what shes bringing back for meeee........i will be the first kid on my block with a psp...best part..her familys got a constuction company in japan (mucho denero)...so she doesnt care about the cost.....heeeeeeeee

If it's region locked though...doens't that mean you'll just have a Japanese playing only handheld?

Anyway, Will there be 10 years of losses for Sony? Well realistically it's hard to think of any company surviving if a product lost money it's whole expected life time but this is Sony, so the end result relies on Sony's PSP strategy.

M$ sales their console at a loss, even now it's sold at a loss and it doesn't balance out with the games. To what I figure or know. The lower the price of the PSP the more of a loss they have to sell for. The losses just don't go away in a 2-3 years either. They'll be there and always be a constant loss form that hardware from start to finish if that's how Sony plans to handle it. Just how many games would a person have to buy to were he or she bought enough to pretty much balance out the loss of their PSP unit for Sony? 10? Maybe 20?

I'm not going to claim it's going to loss money it's whole life. It's possible it will profit the last half of it's.....10 year life. But how Sony planes to do that I'm not sure. Losses just don't stop coming and hey hardly anybody will realistically buy enough games right up front were it's balanced out day one. I mean look at the PS2. Biggest console in the world right now for this gen sales. You think just be shoveling all kinds of money with it but, it's sold at a loss too and their company has trouble working around that like any other world.

Drunken Savior
09-29-2004, 03:57 PM
Cause that's what it would take.

That and hot lesbian action.

Bisexual action. Watching lesbians go at it is just a scooch up from pornography.

Rubeus
09-29-2004, 07:56 PM
Not sure if you can understand the machine translation of the interview:

In summary Ken Kutaragi just said the price will not be higher than 30000 yen ($300), 24800 yen is his ideal price point, and if priced at 20000 yen Nintendo DS will be in big trouble.


http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2004/0928/kaigai122.htm

.....Does the cost of PSP exceed 300 dollars?

The price setting of PSP is very difficult because it is in such a situation. The price announcement of DS is received, and perhaps, must the user sure to buy, and the marketing research urgent of the marketing section of SCE in case of how much PSP.

The width of the price to be able to select SCE anyway is not so wide. If improving of 29,800 yen is set, [it] becomes considerably disadvantageous in DS. However, the person who is related to the industry points out, "SCE must be not good at PSP below 24,800 yen . Then, the shipment plan etc. partition, do all 直(unknown word), and bear it". Because there is limit even if [it] lowersHowever, there is a possibility that SCE sets an aggressive price in the strategy enough. For instance, SCE is driven in and Nintendo seems to be driven in to a considerably painful standpoint with 19,800 yen if [it] applies it. *** However, [it] does not understand whether to launch out into there so that SCE should also <the amount> overwork.

To begin with, why should SCE set a high price from DS on PSP?The purpose of it is the cost. A certain person related to the industry says, "300 dollars are sure to be exceeded greatly though the cost of PSP was calculated on trial". In a word, pointing out which is that the cost crack is sure to be done greatly in case of 20,000 yen level. Certainly, PSP installs the chip of powerful by which the function as not only the function as game machine but also (*mediapureiya*) is taken, and puts the drive of disk UMD of a new case. Even if only it is seen, a high cost.

However, SCE absolutely makes not putting out = deficit by which the profit is obtained even if it is hard a condition. It is likely to make it to the surplus hard very.

In PC and home electric appliances, the price and the cost synchronize linear. For instance, costs of each part rise new hard and the price of the system of the product still rises with a jerk, too, when it is high. It is a price structure of the world of home electric appliances and PC that it falls with the spread of hardness in the effect of mass production costs of parts, and falls on the price of the system fast.

However, because hardware is offered only by itself, the price setting can be made more flexible for game machine. *** The price can be set by thinking about the cost at the entire life cycle of the hardness to make the profit not crack hard game machine. For instance, SCE can be set from the beginning in the price to which the cost does not finally crack in the PSP generation of 90nm process version.

However, the cost calculation of PSP is actually more confusing. Because, there are a lot of SCE and a domestic production parts in the Sony group for PSP. Especially, the meaning by which the chip is an its company of its own development & manufacturing is large.


.....- Blur of expectation for price of PSP

Originally, the expectation price of PSP was large the blur of the opinion. It was heard, "If the price of (*geimupaburissha*) with the United States was not 199 dollars or less, PSP put pressure if not succeeding" from a certain game developer at the time of eyes of the announcement of PSP in E3 this spring. However, the voice "It was said that the circulation side was seen the thing of PSP, and sold enough even if higher than past portable game machine in case of this" was heard from another person related to the industry. It is certain only that there was a blur in the expectation price though the intention of the entire related industry is not understood because this is a part of very catching.

However, it is possible to consent for this to think about the character of PSP. The reason is that there are two faces in PSP.

First of all, the price does not want to release the title if it is not low if [it] sees from the game industry side when thinking about PSP as game machine. The reason for the title on that is that the number does not go out if game machine is cheap and the number does not spread. Especially, because portable game machine is not widespread to the adult up to now in the United States, it is not easy to think about the price of 200 dollars or more.

On the other hand, PSP reflects very cheaply in the comparison 200-300 dollar level if [it] sees from the world of home electric appliances/PC systems. The reason for it is that PSP is caught as not mere game machine but (*maruchimediapureiya*). For instance, portable HDD (*bideopureiya*) : from 499 dollars in the United States in Japan now from 50,000 yen level. Then, there is cheap feeling if PSP queues up as (*bideopureiya*) next door to about 29,800 yen.

However, SCE appeals for PSP only as game machine in the Tokyo game show at this time. The side named (*maruchimediapureiya*) was not put out at all. As for PSP, beginning to go out starts actually as "Playing a game on Lee machine" though this might be natural from the situation of game show. As for the supply of the reflection contents with UMD which is the disk of PSP, it is expected to swerve from the start-up of PSP to the back. In a word, PSP of begin to go out becomes a take off of no (*maruchimediapureiya*) with 片肺(unknown word).

*** The movie etc. which Sony (*pikuchahzuentateimment*) under the control of the Sony group holds are UMD and, at present, do not have the sign by the released hand certain by the reflection contents. *** (The offer of the movie contents :) After the mutual agreement of the entire industry is obtained, [it] <"> does. Hisashi 夛(unknown word) 良木健(unknown word) (Sony computer entertainment president and group CEO) explains, I do not want to abandon and to start" the reason.

.....

hgblob
09-29-2004, 08:02 PM
M$ sales their console at a loss, even now it's sold at a loss and it doesn't balance out with the games. To what I figure or know. The lower the price of the PSP the more of a loss they have to sell for. The losses just don't go away in a 2-3 years either. They'll be there and always be a constant loss form that hardware from start to finish if that's how Sony plans to handle it. Just how many games would a person have to buy to were he or she bought enough to pretty much balance out the loss of their PSP unit for Sony? 10? Maybe 20?

I'm not going to claim it's going to loss money it's whole life. It's possible it will profit the last half of it's.....10 year life. But how Sony planes to do that I'm not sure. Losses just don't stop coming and hey hardly anybody will realistically buy enough games right up front were it's balanced out day one. I mean look at the PS2. Biggest console in the world right now for this gen sales. You think just be shoveling all kinds of money with it but, it's sold at a loss too and their company has trouble working around that like any other world.

Actually, the PS2 hardware started making a profit within about 2 years of its initial release in Japan. All PS2 units are being sold at a profit right now.

Consoles will always launch at a price where they will be sold for a loss. But, as time passes, the cost to manufacture the parts will steadily fall. If the company is able to maintain and even increase its sales figures, there will come a time when the bulk cost of making the hardware will be lower than its total sales; thus the console begins to sell at a profit. All the console manufacturers operate this way, except for MS's Xbox which yet remains to be profitable. (I believe the only part of the Xbox that turns in a profit is its Xbox Live service.) The only thing that's keeping the Xbox afloat is MS's deep pockets.

It really is nothing spectacular or particularly damning when Sony says outright that it expects the PSP to sell at a loss at first.

TheHardware
09-29-2004, 08:59 PM
http://www.esato.com/archive/t.php/t-45543


i was aking for the psp's lowered specs

Dr. Bombay
09-29-2004, 09:06 PM
i was aking for the psp's lowered specs

We were talking about the PSX. The PSP's specs haven't been lowered. We were saying that in order to keep the price out of the strastosphere, they may have to lower them in the future. But it seems Sony is determined to sell this thing whether or not it costs and arm, a leg, and your first born.

I'd like to remind everyone that 250 is still too much for a handheld.

Reality
09-29-2004, 11:09 PM
Actually, the PS2 hardware started making a profit within about 2 years of its initial release in Japan. All PS2 units are being sold at a profit right now.


Hmm is it? This is the first time I heard it was. I was always under the impression they are sold at a loss, even now. Where you hear this info?

Vert1
09-29-2004, 11:58 PM
two things I want to say:

PSP looks nowhere near the capibility of running GT4 from seeing the games on it thus far.

No one will pay 300 dollars for a well advertised handheld that has no note-worthy games(PSP right now) except rich people who lack sense.

Dr. Bombay
09-30-2004, 12:05 AM
A quick note about GT4, If Sony had simply released shots of GT4 looking like how Ridge Racer PSP currently looks, they would be cheered and revered, and gotten a job well done signal.

But they didn't.

I wouldn't be suprised if Ridge Racer PSP is the better racing game in the long run.

dik69
09-30-2004, 12:21 AM
great news everyone....my ex girlfriend always goes home for christmas (home is japan)...and guess what shes bringing back for meeee........i will be the first kid on my block with a psp...best part..her familys got a constuction company in japan (mucho denero)...so she doesnt care about the cost.....heeeeeeeee


My condolences.

Messanic
09-30-2004, 12:25 AM
A quick note about GT4, If Sony had simply released shots of GT4 looking like how Ridge Racer PSP currently looks, they would be cheered and revered, and gotten a job well done signal.

But they didn't.

I wouldn't be suprised if Ridge Racer PSP is the better racing game in the long run.


I wouldn't be surprised if the psp has no GT4, I was totally pissed at first but I realized that its not hurting me if I'm not playing a psp anyway. I'll still own a ds and still be playing games for it and the other consoles I own anyway, agian though the psp looks like it will indeed be $300. Sad but so very true, if they decide to sell it for half that price I'll be mildly impressed and will buy one, until then I'll have to say that the psp is certainly not on my to buy list.

Reivenlocke
09-30-2004, 02:01 AM
My condolences.

Especially when you think about him having to import every game. :lol:

As far as the article someone alluded to earlier, I followed the link and the story was changed, but it was still PSP related. It was a lot of speculation about the PSP pricing. Some of the highlights.

- Logic dictated that the NDS would start at a 15,000yen price point and if the PSP debuts at 29,800 that it would be a problem since 2 NDSes could be sold for every one PSP.

- On the other hand, the bells and whistles that are on the PSP would sell for over $400 or 50,000yen by themselves, so the consumer would be getting a good deal in a 29,800yen PSP.

- Even though 29,800 is the number that is being bounced around, it could very well debut for more than that...perhaps over $300 US due to the fact that the chips and the UMD technology is still expensive.

- Sony has been known to move to a more competitive price to put the pressure on competition, so there is a small chance that it could debut at a lower price, but in this case it is nearly impossible.

hgblob
09-30-2004, 02:19 AM
Hmm is it? This is the first time I heard it was. I was always under the impression they are sold at a loss, even now. Where you hear this info?

From one of the gaming news sites. I think it might have been IGN, but I'm not entirely sure. I'll try and see if I can dig up the link.

Edit: Gah. I still can't find the article I had read. However, I did find this one (http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/23/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm), published in October 2003, that at least confirms that Sony was beginning to make a profit on its PS2 hardware in the previous year. (See paragraph 8 of the article.)

TheHardware
09-30-2004, 08:07 AM
My condolences.


keep em.....your all so hung up on this big price thing...well first off im very well able to purchase the PSP no matter what it cost......although im hoping that its less than 250.....and another thing....there is no scee statetment that the psp is region coded....link please......you guys will hope the psp in to faliur ..but it wont happen sorry to disapoint you....i will get one from here....no matter what....and one when it releases on the american shores.......and ill be happy with it (and my DS)......whilst youll probably still be playing down playing it on these boards..... :spinface:

Reivenlocke
09-30-2004, 09:10 AM
keep em.....your all so hung up on this big price thing...well first off im very well able to purchase the PSP no matter what it cost......although im hoping that its less than 250.....and another thing....there is no scee statetment that the psp is region coded....link please......you guys will hope the psp in to faliur ..but it wont happen sorry to disapoint you....i will get one from here....no matter what....and one when it releases on the american shores.......and ill be happy with it (and my DS)......whilst youll probably still be playing down playing it on these boards..... :spinface:

It's funny when people work advocacy into the most benign of statements. Congratulations. :clap:

Icarus4578
09-30-2004, 10:28 AM
TheHardware ~ "great news everyone....my ex girlfriend always goes home for christmas (home is japan)...and guess what shes bringing back for meeee........i will be the first kid on my block with a psp...best part..her familys got a constuction company in japan (mucho denero)...so she doesnt care about the cost.....heeeeeeeee"

So you're going to waste $300+ just for the satisfaction of carrying around a portable PSone.....heeeeeeeee

Reivenlocke
09-30-2004, 10:51 AM
TheHardware ~ "great news everyone....my ex girlfriend always goes home for christmas (home is japan)...and guess what shes bringing back for meeee........i will be the first kid on my block with a psp...best part..her familys got a constuction company in japan (mucho denero)...so she doesnt care about the cost.....heeeeeeeee"

So you're going to waste $300+ just for the satisfaction of carrying around a portable PSone.....heeeeeeeee

One thing I can't figure out is why his EX-girlfriend would be so obliging to feed his obsessions.

Do you think Sony is going to artificially drive up demand again by purposely making a PSP shortage like they did with the PS2 and the HDD?

Icarus4578
09-30-2004, 11:07 AM
Maybe. But this time I think that it has already been reported that the LCD screens used for the portables are in short supply right now.

Reivenlocke
09-30-2004, 08:35 PM
Maybe. But this time I think that it has already been reported that the LCD screens used for the portables are in short supply right now.


It's funny how these shortages always conveniently come before an anticipated platform or peripheral is about to come (PocketStation, PS2, HDD, and PSP). It's artificial scarcity they are using to stimulate demand and sales coupled with the appeal to be the "first on the block".

Reality
10-01-2004, 04:55 PM
From one of the gaming news sites. I think it might have been IGN, but I'm not entirely sure. I'll try and see if I can dig up the link.

Edit: Gah. I still can't find the article I had read. However, I did find this one (http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/23/commentary/game_over/column_gaming/index.htm), published in October 2003, that at least confirms that Sony was beginning to make a profit on its PS2 hardware in the previous year. (See paragraph 8 of the article.)

Ok thank you. I'll give it a read. Hey, I appreciate you taking this time to look that up for me. I like to stay informed.

IoriYagami n8
10-01-2004, 05:58 PM
keep em.....your all so hung up on this big price thing...well first off im very well able to purchase the PSP no matter what it cost......although im hoping that its less than 250.....and another thing....there is no scee statetment that the psp is region coded....link please......you guys will hope the psp in to faliur ..but it wont happen sorry to disapoint you....i will get one from here....no matter what....and one when it releases on the american shores.......and ill be happy with it (and my DS)......whilst youll probably still be playing down playing it on these boards..... :spinface:No, but the SCEJ E3 press conference had it written quite clearly. I would be more believing of the people actually manufacturing and designing the system as opposed to a foriegn branch that simply distributes. The only debate is if the region coding will be used on games or not, as some have speculated that it will only apply to UMD movies. Honestly, there is little support going either way, the simply fact is that the PSP itself has region coding.

Icarus4578
10-01-2004, 07:19 PM
Don't tell me that people are actually stupid enough to pay around $300 for the PSP just for the sake of watching movies on the go. :annoyed: I mean that's just absurd.

Watch movies on your TV at home or in the theatres. There's no reason why you need to watch films on the go. What's next--are they gonna come out with a portable refrigerator, radio & alarm clock, phone, cable, air conditioner, blow dryer, and tooth brush all-in-one portable, with Dolby Pro-Logic II support?

Why must people carry around as much crap with them as possible? Do people think they're somehow more "sophisticated" by doing so? If so, how? Regardless, anybody that pays $300+ for a portable, then pays X amount for a portable movie on a 4:3" screen is an idiot, plain and simple.

Dr. Bombay
10-01-2004, 07:21 PM
Don't tell me that people are actually stupid enough to pay around $300 for the PSP just for the sake of watching movies on the go. :annoyed: I mean that's just absurd.

Watch movies on your TV at home or in the theatres. There's no reason why you need to watch films on the go. What's next--are they gonna come out with a portable refrigerator, radio & alarm clock, phone, cable, air conditioner, blow dryer, and tooth brush all-in-one portable, with Dolby Pro-Logic II support?

Why must people carry around as much crap with them as possible? Do people think they're somehow more "sophisticated" by doing so? If so, how? Regardless, anybody that pays $300+ for a portable, then pays X amount for a portable movie on a 4:3" screen is an idiot, plain and simple.

Hell, people have been paying 500+ for portible movies. The only problem is the Batterylife paired with the UMD support is going to make watching portible movies nothing more than a hastle.

Icarus4578
10-01-2004, 07:26 PM
No. No matter what, paying to watch movies on the go is ridiculous. Watch the films you enjoy at home or in a theatre, period. There's no reason why everybody has to turn themselves into a walking living room.

TheHardware
10-01-2004, 07:43 PM
says you.....but i happen to have owned a portable dvd player...sold it to my friend who moved to miami......and just because everyone else on here sniffs behind you..doesnt mean your right...i payed 500 for my dvd player..... i will own the psp my ex girl is getting for me and im going to buy a psp when released here cause im a gamer.....any of you wanna contest that....i am buying a DS ive owned every nintendo handheld including 2 gameboys (one broke) i even bought that usless extra ram cartridge for the 64 + a virtual boy......i smell a lot of jelousy coming from some of you...i gotta go like this (((shake))) get the haters off

Icarus4578
10-01-2004, 07:50 PM
Hold it. If I was so "jealous" then how come I haven't even given Nintendo my confidence in their portable? How is it that I own every major console ever, even the more 'hardcore' stuff like a Neo Geo? And what makes you believe that I'm pissed at you for buying a PSP? I know you'll buy it.... then play games on it, correct? But if you're dumb enough to pay to watch a bad copy of a movie on a 4:3" screen, well, that's very shallow of you.

Dr. Bombay
10-01-2004, 08:12 PM
says you.....but i happen to have owned a portable dvd player...sold it to my friend who moved to miami......and just because everyone else on here sniffs behind you..doesnt mean your right...i payed 500 for my dvd player..... i will own the psp my ex girl is getting for me and im going to buy a psp when released here cause im a gamer.....any of you wanna contest that....i am buying a DS ive owned every nintendo handheld including 2 gameboys (one broke) i even bought that usless extra ram cartridge for the 64 + a virtual boy......i smell a lot of jelousy coming from some of you...i gotta go like this (((shake))) get the haters off

You don't get to use your "Real gamers don't have super rigs" theory anymore.

TheHardware
10-01-2004, 08:52 PM
can if i want to...ohh and ic...i wasnt refering to you...and im not dumb or shallow

Icarus4578
10-01-2004, 08:55 PM
Good to hear. So I know for certain that you're not the type of individual who pays for a portable game system just to watch movies on it. Obviously, the only reason us smart gamers are looking forward to the portables is to get our paws on the legendary Horseback Riding Barbie series of titles. :cool guy:

Dr. Bombay
10-01-2004, 09:20 PM
Good to hear. So I know for certain that you're not the type of individual who pays for a portable game system just to watch movies on it. Obviously, the only reason us smart gamers are looking forward to the portables is to get our paws on the legendary Horseback Riding Barbie series of titles. :cool guy:


Don't forget Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen's bedtime mysteries.

Icarus4578
10-01-2004, 11:06 PM
http://www.atarihq.com/tsr/nes/barbie.jpg




Now I want you all to stop and think about something. The next game that you will see successfully passed through Nintendo's quality assurance test.
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