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Axe Wielding Nut
02-28-2004, 05:17 PM
http://store6.yimg.com/I/str8buy_1783_4646301

http://www.str8buy.com/ardvdrom16xr.html


is it a http://www.the-magicbox.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif or a http://www.the-magicbox.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gif

and if its a http://www.the-magicbox.com/forums/images/icons/icon13.gif then what do you suggest in its place?

SpaceManSpiff
02-28-2004, 05:40 PM
Id say :cool guy: .

Joe Redifer
02-28-2004, 10:37 PM
I'd say :thumbdn: for the most part. There have been issues with it on my Mac. It refuses to write the lead in or out for DVD+R's, but will work fine with -R's. I have no idea why this is. Could be that the unit is not compatible with certain types of media, which would kind of suck as well.

I took mine back to the store for a full refund. Get the A06 if you can still find it.

Axe Wielding Nut
02-29-2004, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by Joe Redifer
I'd say :thumbdn: for the most part. There have been issues with it on my Mac. It refuses to write the lead in or out for DVD+R's, but will work fine with -R's. I have no idea why this is. Could be that the unit is not compatible with certain types of media, which would kind of suck as well.

I took mine back to the store for a full refund. Get the A06 if you can still find it.


you mentioned it gave you problems with your Mac, just wanted to know if it was a universal problem (live you've been hearing it before) and if so if its just for the mac, you know anything about it?

Alucard
02-29-2004, 01:16 AM
Mac could be a problem. But media is DEFINATELY a problem. Especially if you're burning at high speed. You need some decent stuff. But the A07 is a VERY good drive. Best out there.

Axe Wielding Nut
02-29-2004, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Alucard
Mac could be a problem. But media is DEFINATELY a problem. Especially if you're burning at high speed. You need some decent stuff. But the A07 is a VERY good drive. Best out there.

thumbs up then huh?

Joe Redifer
02-29-2004, 03:32 AM
Personally I hope to buy another A07 in the future. I think firmware bugs may need to be worked out. The drive itself was reporting errors when the lead out track was to be written. The data wrote without a hitch, so I'm not entirely convinced that it was the media. But you should always be careful what media you buy. Maxel makes the best DVD-R's. I'm not sure who makes the best DVD+R's.

Axe Wielding Nut
02-29-2004, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by Joe Redifer
Maxel makes the best DVD-R's. I'm not sure who makes the best DVD+R's.

what exactly is the difference between DVD-R and DVD+R?

Rubeus
02-29-2004, 04:46 AM
Pioneer has problems with generic DVD+/-R, it won't recognize certain less known brands, unless you upgrade the firmware to the hacked versions. For example my Pioneer A05 refueses to write on Maxell and Ritek DVD-Rs even after I upgraded the firmware! :(

I heard LG made good DVD writers.

Seska
02-29-2004, 05:22 AM
DVD-R: 4.7 Gig
DVD+R:9.4 Gig

Axe Wielding Nut
02-29-2004, 05:42 AM
Originally posted by Seska
DVD-R: 4.7 Gig
DVD+R:9.4 Gig

ooooh 9.4 you say???

which kind of Media (video games movies etc) use the DVD-R and which +R?

Alucard
02-29-2004, 11:20 AM
Dont touch Princo. And if you do buy brans that are strange, make sure they are A grade.

Nindalf
02-29-2004, 12:10 PM
I'd say :cool guy: because it's the pioneer so it has to be good! Can't fight logic!

Rubeus
02-29-2004, 12:51 PM
DVD-R: 4.7 Gig
DVD+R:9.4 Gig


You sure DVD+R is 9.4G? 9.4G can only be achieved with dual layer DVDs, so far there aren't any in the market. The regular (single layer) DVD+/-R are all 4.7GB.

Axe Wielding Nut
02-29-2004, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Rubeus
You sure DVD+R is 9.4G? 9.4G can only be achieved with dual layer DVDs, so far there aren't any in the market. The regular (single layer) DVD+/-R are all 4.7GB.


:???: ... GRRR THEN WHATS THE DIFFERENCE:too mad: :crying:

NEO-GEO
02-29-2004, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Seska
DVD-R: 4.7 Gig
DVD+R:9.4 Gig

That is very hard to belive.

Alucard
02-29-2004, 01:30 PM
Ah just look around on the net! A07 pwns. End of story.

Joe Redifer
02-29-2004, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by Seska
DVD-R: 4.7 Gig
DVD+R:9.4 Gig
Not at all true. The main difference is minimal. DVD-R has slightly better compatibility with all the DVD players in the world. Slightly. DVD+R has built in error correction when writing.

Alucard
02-29-2004, 03:38 PM
Heres some info..

If you simply need a DVD player for your PC or your TV, then the choices are relatively straightforward. Outside of the bells and whistles of "progressive scan", bookmarking, and other enhancements, every DVD player is effectively the same for the basic functions.

If you are shopping for a DVD player-burner (that plays AND records DVDs), then you have two major format choices to evaluate, and they can be confusing:

Burner Choice 1) DVD-R or DVD-RW Format

Burner Choice 2) DVD+R or DVD+RW Format


The Standards Differences

1) The DVD-R (pronounced "DVD dash R") and -RW media formats are officially approved by the standards group DVD Forum. The DVD Forum was founded by Mitsubishi, Sony, Hitachi, and Time Warner, so it has tremendous industry support for its technical standards.

2) DVD+R ("DVD plus? R) and +RW formats are not approved by the DVD Forum standards group, but are instead supported by the DVD+RW Alliance. The DVD+RW Alliance is supported by Sony, Yamaha, Philips, Dell, and JP, so it also has tremendous industry support for its technical standards. Note that Sony supports both organizations.

3) Trivia "DVD Slim" format is not approved by any standards body.

4) Trivia: DVD RAM is a late 1990's format that has lost popularity, and is effectively a non-choice for consumers today, since most movies in 2004 will not play on DVD RAM.

The Functional Differences

The main functional differences between DVD-R and DVD+R are:
1) the DVD recorder's built-in defects management,
2) the way the records format and rewrite DVDs,
3) the price.


According to the claims of the DVD Alliance, using a DVD+R/+RW recorder will let you do the following:

1. Instantly eject without having to wait for finalized formatting.

2. Ability to record one DVD disc partially on PC and partially on television.

3. Background formatting: while the disc is being formatted, you can simultaneously record on already-formatted portions of the same disc.

4. Enhanced ability to edit filenames, movie and song titles, and playlists.

5. 100% compatibility with all other DVD players, while still enjoying these extra recording features.


http://netforbeginners.about.com/cs/multimedia/a/DVD_explained.htm

Joe Redifer
03-01-2004, 01:15 AM
DVD+R DEFINITELY does not have 100% compatibility with DVD players.

Alucard
03-01-2004, 07:15 AM
No it doesn't. Its what those others 'claim'. But its still pretty high.

Rubeus
03-01-2004, 09:55 AM
Most DVD players won't read DVD+R right?

mackensie
03-01-2004, 03:29 PM
90%ish will read DVD+R just fine.

so the only tangible benefits to +R over -R is that you can stop the burn half-way through, and start again? That definately isn't worth the possible incompatiablilty with a friends old dvd player. nuts to that IMO.

REDFlELD
03-13-2004, 11:04 AM
What's the difference between IDE and EIDE? Can I use this pioneer writer with my IDE cable?

SpaceManSpiff
03-14-2004, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by REDFlELD
What's the difference between IDE and EIDE? Can I use this pioneer writer with my IDE cable?

IDE: Integrated/Intelligent Drive Electronics. The E in EIDE just stands for Enhanced. Its a newer and Faster version developed by Westerd Digital. I think all cables now are EIDE and most drives support it, kinda like the new standard. Im sure your drive can work with your IDE cable though. And if not, just buy a new one, its like 10 bucks.:haha:

REDFlELD
03-14-2004, 05:45 AM
So it is possible to use this EIDE cable with my old Celeron 466MHz PC?? Both IDE and EIDE's cable socket looks the same right?

Alucard
03-14-2004, 11:25 AM
Should be fine.