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DBJAY
01-29-2004, 12:48 PM
Looks like their hype machine backfired.

"Semiconductor Insights Reveals Sony PlayStation X (PSX) Not Yet Ready for 90nm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

OTTAWA, January 29, 2004 ? Semiconductor Insights (SI), the leader in technical and patent analyses of integrated circuits and structures, today revealed that Sony's widely publicized 90nm EmotionEngine + Graphics Synthesizer (EE+GS@90nm) found in the PlayStation X (PSX) is still shipping in 130nm technology. "This discovery is contrary to Sony's announcement about this device", said Derek Nuhn, Senior Vice President and Chief Operating Officer of Semiconductor Insights. "Manufacturers, including Sony, are under great market pressure to deliver at 90 nm, but the reality is many are not ready."

The PSX family reinforces Sony's strategy to combine the company's game and electronics technologies. The PSX is currently being promoted as the first Sony system based on the EE+GS@90nm processor, which combines the PlayStation 2's Emotion Engine and Graphics Synthesizer chips onto a single die. Semiconductor Insights removed the EE+GS@90nm chip from the PSX, model DESR-5000, and determined it to be 130nm technology with a die size of 90mm?. This is in contrast to Sony's widely advertised claims of 90nm technology and an associated die size of 86? for the PSX.

"We often see discrepancies between announced ship dates and technology nodes, as companies are under increasing pressure to over-hang the market", said Nuhn. "The interesting issue here is how Sony met their announced die size, while implementing the device in the older technology node. As our investigation proceeds, we will be reporting on the PSX in more depth."

For additional details on the Sony PSX chipset, other 90nm devices, and/or related analysis available from Semiconductor Insights, please visit www.semiconductor.com. "
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http://www.semiconductor.com/resour...004_01_29_1.asp


I can only hope that the press takes notice of this and not instantly believe all of the upcoming PS3 hype.

Alucard
01-29-2004, 03:47 PM
Whats the bet they'll lap up anything Sony says again and so will everyone who lines up for 3 days and nights to buy it.

TheHardware
01-29-2004, 06:34 PM
slap in the face...(whack)

GodOfCookery
01-30-2004, 04:35 AM
And I say who fucking cares except for some market share analysts? The gamers? NOPE definitly not. Ok maybe except for some die-hard-X-Box-Junkies who get one of when they read hardware specs. Besides Sony has no FABS themself if anyone lied its likely to be Toshiba (who is manufacturing the ship IIRC).

Cobi*
01-30-2004, 08:29 AM
son3 iZ d00m3d!!!11 :D

Alucard
01-30-2004, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by GodOfCookery
And I say who fucking cares except for some market share analysts? The gamers? NOPE definitly not. Ok maybe except for some die-hard-X-Box-Junkies who get one of when they read hardware specs. Besides Sony has no FABS themself if anyone lied its likely to be Toshiba (who is manufacturing the ship IIRC).

What are you crazy? You're technically paying for something that has the wrong specs. Sony is making you pay more then you should for something they say you should be getting, but are not. They could lower the price, but they dont. Its cheaper for them, more expensive for you. As a gamer that pisses me off. If this sort of thing happens in the PC hardware area, that company/product gets ignored for something else.

GodOfCookery
01-30-2004, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Alucard
What are you crazy? You're technically paying for something that has the wrong specs. Sony is making you pay more then you should for something they say you should be getting, but are not. They could lower the price, but they dont. Its cheaper for them, more expensive for you. As a gamer that pisses me off. If this sort of thing happens in the PC hardware area, that company/product gets ignored for something else.

Well first of, a die shrink does not bring the gamer anything (it is not that they can increase the tactrate or puting additional transistors for new functions into it by doing so, which is normal in PC cpu/gpu business) except that Sony saves costs in manufacturing by combining both chips to one (so If that's a lie they don't save anything, so why should you care???), especially when this cost-saving is not returned to customers in the first place but just to increase their profit margin (besides you likely bought your machine 1-3 years ago, so you do not benefit from it at all). And if you haven't learned by now, games sell hardware, hardware does not sell games! Except for some die-hard idiots. And another thing, right now normal daily customers do not give a **** about what structure size their cpu has, as long it runs fast, reliable, it is cheap and does not make too much noise.