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05-25-2016, 12:01 PM
Would be interesting if Xbox One supports Oculus Rift.

Sources: Smaller Xbox One Coming This Year, More Powerful Xbox One In 2017

Microsoft is preparing at least two new Xbox models for release in the next two years, sources tell Kotaku. Later this year we’ll see a cheaper, smaller Xbox One, and next year Microsoft will release a more powerful version of their premiere console.

The 2017 Xbox, which is codenamed Scorpio, will have a more powerful GPU, according to three people familiar with this model, speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to speak about Microsoft’s plans. We hear that it will also be technically capable of supporting the Oculus Rift and that Microsoft is pursuing a partnership with Oculus. As for 2016, sources have told us there’s at least a more compact version coming by year’s end. One source believed it will include a larger 2TB hard drive, double the capacity of the most spacious current model. We’re expecting Microsoft to announce the more compact machine at E3 next month. (Kotaku’s Jason Schreier and Kotaku UK’s Keza MacDonald both independently corroborated this information.)

When asked about these plans, Microsoft and Oculus representatives did not provide comment.

The two consoles form part of a wider Microsoft strategy, codenamed “Project Helix” according to one source, to converge Xbox and Windows. For a while now Microsoft has been clear that they want their two prestige brands to work together, as they’ve announced big new exclusives like Halo Wars 2 and Sea of Thieves for both Xbox One and PC. Developer sources have told us that Microsoft’s new mandate is to release future games–including the flagship Halo series–on both platforms. The recently-cancelled Fable Legends, which was playable across Windows 10 and Xbox One, was one of the first games to implement this strategy.

In addition, people familiar with Microsoft’s plans have told Keza that the company is moving toward an iterative approach for their consoles, not unlike Apple. Sources say that instead of one hardware revision every five years or so, as has been the case with previous console cycles, Microsoft plans to move towards an incremental model, with more frequent hardware releases and games that are both forwards and backwards compatible across both Windows 10 and different Xbox models.

In March, Xbox boss Phil Spencer dropped some hints about this new approach, telling journalists that he’d like to see consoles take a PC-like evolution. “I look at the ecosystem that a console sits in and I think that it should have the capability of more iteration on hardware capability,” he said. A few days later, he elaborated. “What I’m saying is as hardware innovations happen we want to be able to embrace those in the console space, and make those available and maybe not have to wait seven or eight years for things to happen.”

Of course, Microsoft is no stranger to changing their high-level hardware plans, as we saw in 2013, when the company reversed course on an always-online Xbox One. With Microsoft, anything can change at any time. We hear that the folks at Xbox have yet to finalize the specs for 2017’s Scorpio, although they briefed third-party publishers on the device during a secret event last week, according to a source.

Development sources raised the concern that although the Scorpio model will be capable of supporting 4K resolution thanks to its GPU upgrade, as of right now there is no planned upgrade to the console’s I/O transfer speed–the speed at which the console can transfer assets from a disc or hard drive to its memory. This could mean long loading times for games specifically designed to support 4K, due to their larger assets.

Two months ago, Kotaku broke the news that Sony is preparing an upgraded version of their PS4, which is code-named Neo and will also have a more powerful GPU. Although Sony has not yet confirmed the existence of that device, other news outlets have come forth to corroborate details. We’ll likely hear more from both first parties next month at their respective E3 press conferences. Microsoft’s event is Monday, June 13 at 12:30pm Eastern. Sony’s is that night at 9pm Eastern.


05-26-2016, 01:04 AM
More rumors

Report: New Xbox 4x as Powerful as Current Model

Following this morning's report, more information is streaming in regarding Microsoft's two new Xbox One models the company will reportedly release over the next two years.

One of Microsoft's new consoles—codenamed project Scorpio—will be four times as powerful as the current Xbox One model, a source told Polygon. The second console, which is reportedly a "slimmed down version of the current hardware," will also receive a controller redesign.

In Kotaku's earlier Xbox One report, it was said the smaller, cheaper Xbox One console would release this year, and contain a 2TB hard drive. This console is expected to be revealed at this year's E3. Polygon's source reported the announcement was prompted, "among other things," by Sony's speedy timeline for its upgraded PlayStation 4.

The smaller console is expected to be "40 percent smaller than the current model, and will likely include 4K support," a source familiar with Microsoft's plan told The Verge.

The main concern for Scorpio is apparently its power, as Sony's PlayStation 4 has outperformed Xbox One in this way for a while. According to Polygon, "Microsoft is determined to end this narrative." Microsoft's current performance target for Scorpio is around 6 teraflops, the source said—quite a bit higher than PlayStation NEO's expected 4.14 teraflops. Scorpio is unlikely to be released before late 2017.


05-26-2016, 07:39 AM
I find these new more powerful mid-gen consoles the death of the market. Why buy these when you can buy the next version instead? Or the one after that? Why buy a PS5 at launch when a new version is coming in 2 years?

Yeah... things are looking up for the PC at this pace. At least if you spend money on it, it will last you longer than that.

Knowing Microsoft though... i bet they aren't gonna play catch up with Sony. They are gonna jump straight to the next generation... just like they did with the 360. They aren't going to tie themselves over to the One.

05-26-2016, 12:11 PM
Well how come no one complained about hardware revision on iPhone, iPad, and all the Android devices? They obvious cost more than console, yet people don't give a sh*t and keep on upgrading.