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Drunken Savior
03-20-2005, 03:31 AM
Sony's PSP Wows, but Only if You Stick to the Games

Sat Mar 19, 4:21 PM ET -*Technology - washingtonpost.com

By Rob Pegoraro

Sony has often won big by thinking small. Portable gizmos such as the Walkman, the Discman and the Handicam helped make this company the consumer electronics power it is today. But until now, it hasn't tried to run that play with its most successful product of the past decade, the PlayStation line of video-game machines.


That changes Thursday, when Sony introduces the PlayStation Portable -- PSP for short. This $250 device is Sony's answer to Nintendo (news - web sites)'s Game Boy and DS handhelds. It also represents yet another try by Sony to get into the portable-media market Apple's iPod owns.

The PSP does only one of those jobs well, and you can probably guess which one. As a portable game machine, it's a peerless piece of work, combining sharp graphics, deep game play and easy online connectivity. As a multimedia gadget, however, it's a dud.

The PSP's sleek appearance backs up its gaming orientation. This booklet-sized device -- 6 5/8 inches by 2 7/8 inches by 15/16 inches, weighing 11 ounces with headphones and remote control -- carries a similar layout of buttons to that of a PlayStation 2 (news - web sites) controller, plus a sharp, wide-format color display. At about 4 1/4 inches wide, with a 480-by-272 resolution, it's larger than other game players' displays and almost as sharp as those on handheld organizers.

The sum of these parts looks just different enough from other portable widgets -- and cool enough in its own right -- to draw reactions from passerby that range from intrigued to awestruck.

The PSP's breakthrough feature, however, can't be seen from outside. Its WiFi receiver allows PSPs to link up for peer-to-peer wireless gaming or, if within range of a separate WiFi access point, competition across the Internet. That second option is absent from the PSP's chief competitor, Nintendo's $150 DS. (Web access would have been a pleasant bonus but there is no browser available on the PSP.)

Setting up a PSP for Internet game play is harder than necessary, thanks to Sony's awkward interface for entering the lengthy alphanumeric encryption key most WiFi access points require.

Otherwise, though, multiplayer mayhem on the PSP is laughably simple. Select "multiplayer" from a game's menu, choose between local or Internet-wide contests (in a fit of jargon, the PSP calls them "ad hoc" and "infrastructure"), then wait for opponents to show up.

In The Post's newsroom, two PSPs joined the same game in seconds and maintained the connection up to about 110 feet away. Two Internet-hosted games were almost as quick to set up and showed no signs of lag, the slow response time that can gum up online games.

You can also play PSP titles solo, of course, but it's just more fun to compete against other people. You don't get the same sublime sense of satisfaction when the car you incinerate with a hail of missiles is driven by the computer instead of your co-worker.

Gaming novices may find the PSP's multiple controls a lot to handle. It offers two four-way arrays of buttons to operate with your left and right thumbs, left and right switches to work with your index fingers and an "analog stick" that also falls under your left thumb -- and which can cramp up your hand.

Instead of CDs or DVDs, the PSP uses a new, smaller format that Sony has optimistically christened the Universal Media Disc (UMD). These 2 1/2-inch-wide discs store 1.8 gigabytes of data, far more than the flash-memory cards used in other handhelds. (One unpleasant side effect: lengthy waits for games to load, up to a minute in my tests.)

That kind of storage allows PSP titles to offer much of the depth and detail of games made for the PS2, Nintendo's GameCube and Microsoft's Xbox (news - web sites). PSP sports simulations, for instance, let you build teams by drafting and trading players, instead of just playing games with a fixed roster.

Sony says 24 games will be available initially, at $40 or $50 each. (See the related story below for an evaluation of this batch of titles.)

A rechargeable, replaceable battery powers the PSP; it ran for about 4 1/2 hours with WiFi on.

If Sony had quit there, it would have had an unambiguous winner. But it fell flat in trying to turn the PSP into a media machine that plays and displays movies, music and photos.

In this role, the PSP is the prisoner of its own formats. Movies must be bought or rented on UMDs, which can neither be played or viewed on any other devices. Only 22 titles have been announced so far; even discounted off their $20 list prices, these constitute a lousy deal.

Because those same UMDs aren't rewriteable, your own music and photos can be stored only on a Memory Stick Duo card inserted in a slot on the PSP's side. This cut-down version of Sony's proprietary, expensive Memory Stick format can't be used in a regular Memory Stick slot without an adapter, but Sony doesn't include one. Nor does it include the USB cable you'll otherwise need to connect a PSP to a PC. (At least the PSP's standard-size USB jack accepted the cable from my handheld organizer.)

Once you've obtained an adapter or USB cable, copying music and photos requires creating a particular hierarchy of folders on a Memory Stick Duo, without which the PSP can't find your files. If you, unlike most, have downloaded songs from the Sony Connect online store, you'll need to use Sony's SonicStage program to transfer those files.

If you get a PSP, do yourself a favor and stick to the games. If you also want to listen to music and view your pictures, just get an iPod Photo or another music-plus-photos player. What if you don't want to carry around two expensive gadgets all the time? Then you've got a problem -- and so does Sony, until it revisits the PSP's multimedia software.

Living with technology, or trying to? E-mail Rob Pegoraro at rob@twp.com.

Thoughts??

FinalSolace2
03-20-2005, 04:05 AM
Thoughts??

people will eventually be highly dissapointed with theyre PSP, like buying something thats expensive being happy, then realising it isn't what it cracked up to be.

if you want games, youll love PSP, but sony's false promises will send you into denial and give you a deep down resentment.

by it for the games, and wit for the price drop.
20 movies is very poor at the moment, and as i've said many tims, UMD is chained to the psp with no other UMD playable devices.

If you look at this compared to DS once the hype has subsided, the lower graphics will give the DS the pop culture GBA enjoyed.
If they keep advertising theyre best games like they are now, then i'm sure that will happen, Plus DS is incredibly cost effective.


as i said they shoulda dropped all the extra feature's and kept PSP as a gaming only device and it would have been far more popular, and people would have looked more at the games potentential rather than justifying PSP greatness on- UMD- MOVIES- MUSIC- PHOTOS- ONLINE- as they all suck

thats is if this report is real and I bet it is.

Freeman
03-20-2005, 04:16 AM
I think I agree with FinalSolace2.
TBH the PSP was a bad idea from the start, today Nintendo dominates the world of handheld gaming & shouldn't have rivals!

Paper exe
03-20-2005, 04:32 AM
Just like what I said
PSP should have been a game handheld only
and what Sony is doing is a rip off and I will only buy PSP if they remove that Spiderman 2 Movie and the other junks.
but now I will only buy the games and I am in no rush of playing them so waiting is the best and right thing to do.

Daniel4802
03-20-2005, 04:55 AM
Ditto. I too have stated that Sony should have at least made 2 different units - the basic game-playing handheld vs the all-in-one media bundle. If they're smart, they'll make a game-playing version only handheld soon enough to offer consumers who solely favor that.

TheHardware
03-20-2005, 05:40 AM
I put yes.... because first and foremost I want it for gaming......and will treat it as such. The psp doesn?t come with a gun to your head to buy or use any of the other features. Those who stick to games will be satisfied also.

Escaflowne2001
03-20-2005, 06:23 AM
TBH the PSP was a bad idea from the start, today Nintendo dominates the world of handheld gaming & shouldn't have rivals!

Does that mean Sony shouldn't have rivals in console gaming

Joe Redifer
03-20-2005, 06:40 AM
Those who stick to games will be satisfied also.
Unless you look at the price tag, which could be a bit lower without the non-gaming crap.

Icarus4578
03-20-2005, 07:35 AM
$50 for a portable Ridge Racer or Twisted Metal? I'll pass, thanks. Just like with the DS launch, the PSP is looking to be rather lackluster. As far as the article is concerned, nothing he stated was unknown to me. I'm suprised that he didn't bring up how easily the screen scratches. He makes good sense when he says that the whole movie/music/photo thing is not impressive and that Sony should've focused solely on gaming, but Sony cannot resist hyping their products.

Stevz
03-20-2005, 09:08 AM
I would have to agree with the article on the basis if I believe that its 100% acurate...

Nice find Drunken! :clap: :clap: :cool guy:

Zod
03-20-2005, 10:38 AM
I tihnk the PSP is a good idea, but $50 for hand-held games and more for movies than what it costs to buy DVD's will keep their sales low. Sony really needs to quit it with always charging the highest possible price for something.

littlewig
03-20-2005, 11:14 AM
The article pointed out all my grivences I have with the PSP.


The PSP is lousy as a portable movie/music player, and it's too expensive as a tradition handheld machine. Given that i already have an Ipod, I have no need for the PSP (trying to watch movies on the PSP is way to much of a hassle, Sony needs to find a better way to get movies and music onto those memory sticks), and I have no interest in the launch line-up, I'll save my $250 dollars.


If the PSP proves to be successful and is still ticking in 2006, I'll probably get one. Right now, I don't feel like investing over $300 on something that's not a sure thing.


PS - the article some misinformation, the most glaring one is when it said the DS did not have Wi-Fi. If the author was award of this, I think he would have been a lot more harse on the PSP.

Dr. Bombay
03-20-2005, 11:48 AM
I agree. The PSP is a system that looks incredibly sexy to those who aren't gamers. Though when time is spent with the system and price/software is analyzed, it's not nearly as good as it should be, especially when you pay so much for it. All of this on top of the fact that in 2 months, the DS will have all the online features of hte PSP.

But I digress. When the price drops and there's 100 titles for it that don't cost as much as their PS2 counterparts, it may become to better system. But I'm not about to rule out what nintendo has up their sleaves.

Zod
03-20-2005, 12:01 PM
I agree. The PSP is a system that looks incredibly sexy to those who aren't gamers. Though when time is spent with the system and price/software is analyzed, it's not nearly as good as it should be, especially when you pay so much for it. All of this on top of the fact that in 2 months, the DS will have all the online features of hte PSP.

But I digress. When the price drops and there's 100 titles for it that don't cost as much as their PS2 counterparts, it may become to better system. But I'm not about to rule out what nintendo has up their sleaves.


Right now there are exactly zero games that interest me for it. All I see are a bunch of EA crap-games. Makes me wonder why it's not launching with more of the releases that the Japanese one launched with.

Decado
03-20-2005, 01:46 PM
There are definately games coming out on the system that I'm interested in...I'd just rather play them on the PS2/3 :o

SavedFromSin
03-20-2005, 01:48 PM
this morning i opened up my local newspaper and started going through the ads and everyone of them were advertising the PSP. Price Tag? $249+tax! Games? $49+tax! I am sorry that is to expensive and I am not to impressed with the PSP to warrant me spending that much money on something like that, especially if it is going to break in four months. This is my same thoughts for the DS. Horrible launch titles and not a very interesting future. Personally, unless they get kill apps, I do not see the PSP lasting very long into the future. As much as I am a sony whore, I do not think sony is playing their PSP card very smart.

Messanic
03-20-2005, 03:52 PM
I agree 100% with this article, the only reason I'm buying a PSP is so I can play games on it. At some point Sony will realize that all the extra features and high prices on the UMD movies and select third party games are too pricy for some people and release a PSP made specifically for gaming and lower the prices to compete with Ninty. The way I see it, it'll be a great summer for the PSP, but when fall comes, all hell will break loose and Sony will have to fight harder to beat the DS.

Kwestone
03-20-2005, 10:35 PM
Yes

Daniel4802, Dr. Bombay, Entertainer, Freeman, Joe Redifer, Kwestone, littlewig, manicdvln, Messanic, Paper exe, Reality, Reiko8, Stevz, TheHardware 14 77.78%

No
dootyonn, RayRey, Sk8_or_DIE, Xander

I would like to see why people disagree with this article.. mainly the 4 people that said no

TheHardware
03-21-2005, 01:37 AM
I agree. The PSP is a system that looks incredibly sexy to those who aren't gamers. Though when time is spent with the system and price/software is analyzed, it's not nearly as good as it should be, especially when you pay so much for it. All of this on top of the fact that in 2 months, the DS will have all the online features of hte PSP.

But I digress. When the price drops and there's 100 titles for it that don't cost as much as their PS2 counterparts, it may become to better system. But I'm not about to rule out what nintendo has up their sleaves.


i think this post makes the most sense to me...

Reko8
03-21-2005, 06:08 AM
Yes

Daniel4802, Dr. Bombay, Entertainer, Freeman, Joe Redifer, Kwestone, littlewig, manicdvln, Messanic, Paper exe, Reality, Reiko8, Stevz, TheHardware 14 77.78%

No
dootyonn, RayRey, Sk8_or_DIE, Xander

I would like to see why people disagree with this article.. mainly the 4 people that said no

Didnt even know this article was public :D I was orginally gonna buy the PSP on launch date but if you tracked down my posts I said I was gonna use that money for a new PC. The price drop may take affect when the PS3 is released because that will be the main attrtaction for sony. Plus I probaly will get the Xenon/Xbox 2/NextBox etc. when thats released and hold off on teh ps3.

IoriYagami n8
03-21-2005, 07:42 AM
Yeah, the first batch of actual price and advertisements hit my Sunday paper yesterday. Not only $250 for the system, but games that cost $40-$50? If that's how it's going to be companies might as well abandon the console market and just make uber-handhelds that have AV-Outputs of some kind to display on the TV.

Akabei
03-23-2005, 12:43 PM
I voted yes because on the whole the article seems to be fairly accurate and is a good read for anyone thinking of buying a PSP. But I do have a nit to pick with technology writers that don't know a damn thing about technology.

For example take this quote

Once you've obtained an adapter or USB cable, copying music and photos requires creating a particular hierarchy of folders on a Memory Stick Duo, without which the PSP can't find your files.

Either this guy is a moron or he has never used a digital camera or similar device before. It is not uncommon to have devices need files in a certain fold structure in order for them to read them. The easiest way to do this on the PSP is to format the Memory Stick to get the proper folders. Sony really should have made the PSP ask you if you want to format when you stick in a blank MSPD.

Anyway the folder structure is also in the manual, but I guess reading it would have been too much trouble.

Dr. Bombay
03-23-2005, 01:16 PM
Yeah, the first batch of actual price and advertisements hit my Sunday paper yesterday. Not only $250 for the system, but games that cost $40-$50? If that's how it's going to be companies might as well abandon the console market and just make uber-handhelds that have AV-Outputs of some kind to display on the TV.


Honestly, if the games were next gen console graphic good and it supported HD and such and could transmit the video and audio signal wireless, I'd be all for that. No issues what so ever.

Maybe that'll be what's so innovative about hte revolution.

Bobs eggs
03-28-2005, 01:59 PM
My thoughts. I don't really like the psp (all I hear about is its graphics) and the games don't look too good (except metal gear acid) and are too expensive.

spider-prime
03-28-2005, 02:45 PM
My thoughts. I don't really like the psp (all I hear about is its graphics) and the games don't look too good (except metal gear acid) and are too expensive.


basically the same thoughts as me

and theres NO game that I want, Armored core is crap on it, MGA is crap on it, who really wants a game where it basically plays out for you and you just give commands when the normal games were action packed games to begin with

so far the only game I want on it is Super Robot Wars when its released, I'm a whore for those games hehe

but the price is what turns me off the most, if it was the same price has the DS, I would get one for sure, but not when you need to pay bills half the time and buy other junk that comes first before a expensive paperweight

gearhound
03-28-2005, 05:23 PM
i think playing movies on your PSP is a gimmick. why would i want to pay for a movie on my PSP that costs more than a DVD movie? please tell me what the point of that is? please don't say you can watch them when you travel. how often do you travel? will you watch movies on your PSP as much as you do on you DVD player? hell no. sony is ripping you off. they jack up the price with all of these worthless multi-media features just so a bunch of brain deads can throw their money away. i will not pay 300 bucks for a PSP just to play games; it's insane. besides, there aren't any games worth playing that warrent a $300 purchase. so, you bought a PSP with 4 games... that is over $500. i have a friend who spent $700 for a PSP and some games. talk about impulse buying.

progmetal
03-28-2005, 05:36 PM
It is easy to see that the guy who wrote this article, has not spent a lot of time with the PSP, or any time at all.
The folders you put music and photos in are automatically created when you format the mem. card. If you use the pspvideo9 program to convert ripped dvd's, you can automatically transfer the movies to the psp without making the movie folders first.
I also saw they tested ipod against the psp as a mp3 player, and the psp had better sound than the ipod. So it's when you get to know to use all the stuff on the psp it's just getting more and more fun to own.

Lastly, there seems to bee alot of nintendo fanboys on this SONY board. :???:

gearhound
03-28-2005, 05:50 PM
Lastly, there seems to bee alot of nintendo fanboys on this SONY board. :???:

lets see how good you are... name them. :)

progmetal
03-28-2005, 05:56 PM
lets see how good you are... name them. :)

Alucard, paper.exe, the hardware, dr.bombay, bobbs eggs just a few. :) How many of them are wrong?

modojojo
03-28-2005, 06:22 PM
True the whole price point Is a bit much especially for software and memory, but compared to other high end portable devices It's value Is about the same. I don't play mp3's on the psp because I have a 20gig Ipod, I do look at movies and play games when I work the grave yard shift at my job. I not paying for any movies I'll put my exsisting movie and anime collection on my memorystick. The psp works out perfectly for me.

also why complain about the price of the games? Graphiclly the games are better than any past and current handheld availible.

gearhound
03-28-2005, 06:23 PM
Alucard, paper.exe, the hardware, dr.bombay, bobbs eggs just a few. :) How many of them are wrong?

hmm... you are right about paper, but wrong about the others... i don't know about bobbs eggs.

gearhound
03-28-2005, 06:24 PM
I not paying for any movies I'll put my exsisting movie and anime collection on my memorystick. The psp works out perfectly for me.
that sounds sweet. how do you do it?

Abaddon
03-28-2005, 06:35 PM
Alucard, paper.exe, the hardware, dr.bombay, bobbs eggs just a few. :) How many of them are wrong?

The Hardware is actually a Sony fanboy.

And Alucard isn't a Nintendo fanboy, he's just a butt pirate from the ass hole of the earth, Australia. :thumb-up:

progmetal
03-28-2005, 06:42 PM
that sounds sweet. how do you do it?

There is an excellent guide here (http://discuss.mobiledeviant.com/articles.php?action=viewarticle&artid=1#step10) :)

modojojo
03-28-2005, 07:05 PM
The movies on memorystick only work If you have a 512 or 1gig duo. Umd holds 1.8gig so a 1gig stick will give you a crystal clear movie or two movies of good quality or three movies of barely watchable quality. A 512 could fit 1 good movie(I ripped Bad BoysII from Dvd and It came In at 455mb ) or a crystal clear 50-80min anime ep or ova.

gearhound
03-28-2005, 07:37 PM
so, in other words, you have to pay out the ass.

TheHardware
03-28-2005, 07:49 PM
The Hardware is actually a Sony fanboy.

And Alucard isn't a Nintendo fanboy, he's just a butt pirate from the ass hole of the earth, Australia. :thumb-up:

Ictually it only seems that way because there are so many sony bashers on here....you can check my post and reply record on here ..i give props where props are due...plus i own all games systems..and love games on each and every one of em....

it only seems that way cause i dont follow the crowd on here!....

ehh like jadakiss said "I'm stuck with what im stuck with, cause i dont suck d!ck.

Bobs eggs
03-28-2005, 08:57 PM
Alucard, paper.exe, the hardware, dr.bombay, bobbs eggs just a few. :) How many of them are wrong?

Me for one thing. And you spelled it wrong.

Bobs eggs
03-28-2005, 09:10 PM
The music and movies on the psp is worthless to me :( . I watch movies at home and play music on my I pod. The games so far are not that interesting to me and cost WAY too much money :annoyed: . So that just leaves stunning graphics ;) . And for the record I like the psp :D . But it causes too many sony fanboys to start rumors about nintendo and talk about how much nintendo sucks. :too mad:

cosmoblues
03-28-2005, 09:27 PM
Sony really should have made the PSP ask you if you want to format when you stick in a blank MSPD.



That's odd, I specifically remember the PSP asking me to format my memory card when I got it.

Dr. Bombay
03-28-2005, 09:50 PM
Alucard, paper.exe, the hardware, dr.bombay, bobbs eggs just a few. :) How many of them are wrong?

I'm not a nintendo fanboy. I simply don't give Sony the benefit of the doubt based on the history of their business practices. Nintendo isn't doing much better but my god, at least they had enough DS's at launch and 4/10 of them didn't have 4+ dead pixals.

naruto_sensei
03-28-2005, 10:20 PM
i think playing movies on your PSP is a gimmick. why would i want to pay for a movie on my PSP that costs more than a DVD movie? please tell me what the point of that is? please don't say you can watch them when you travel. how often do you travel? will you watch movies on your PSP as much as you do on you DVD player?
I'm against UMD movies, but I can say the same thing about handheld and console gaming.

gearhound
03-28-2005, 10:38 PM
I'm against UMD movies, but I can say the same thing about handheld and console gaming.

no, you cannot.

it isn't quite the same thing... actually it isn't the same thing. we have original games on handhelds. watching a movie on your PSP is retarded if you have to pay more to do so. leave it to sony to rip you off. anyway, how do consoles fit into this?

the same movies are availiable on dvd. now if handheld gaming was not original (no original games just ports from current consoles) you might have a point. but your above remark is invalid.

naruto_sensei
03-28-2005, 10:48 PM
I was mostly arguing with your last few points
please don't say you can watch them when you travel. how often do you travel? will you watch movies on your PSP as much as you do on you DVD player?
I could say the same thing about consoles and handhelds. what's the point of a hanheld? how often do you travel? will you play your (insert handheld here) as much as you play (insert console here)?

but ya I agree with your other post that the UMD movies kind fo suck.

gearhound
03-28-2005, 11:32 PM
yeah but sitting at home watching a movie on your PSP when you could watch it on a DVD player is retarded. i can play my GBA at home and i will play it more often that i would watch a movie on my PSP. do you see my point? there are original games on consoles and handhelds, but there is no originality concerning PSP movies, so again, why would i watch a movie on my PSP when i can watch it on my DVD player with a big screen... why would i play my GBA or console at home with original titles? because i can't play the games anywhere else. i hope you get what i am saying.

Reality
03-29-2005, 12:05 AM
You know, about the movie thing on PSP. I been kinda ill lately and while laying in bed I was thinking to myself that having a PSP would be pretty handy right about now because I wanted to watch The Incredibles. Then it clicked on my hand not only is that movie not on the PSP but I really don' feel like holding the unit in my hands for a hr and half. I think the PSP movie playing be cool for short films but I use the memory card more for that then a UMD Disk.

Abaddon
03-29-2005, 07:16 AM
Ictually it only seems that way because there are so many sony bashers on here....you can check my post and reply record on here ..i give props where props are due...plus i own all games systems..and love games on each and every one of em....

it only seems that way cause i dont follow the crowd on here!....

ehh like jadakiss said "I'm stuck with what im stuck with, cause i dont suck d!ck.

Hey man, whatever you are, I could care less, you can tell I don't care by the fact that I'm not the guy who argues with you about this sh-t, and I don't go around argueing with people about the DS either, but you defend this product, you have a right to do so, but there is so much opposition against this product that the more you defend it the more it comes off as that is all you do.

The funny part is you don't even have to be a fanboy, but the way you defend this psp product in every thread where there is an attack, actually rubs you off as one since you're one of the only ones who defends it to that extent.

That being said there are a greater number of people who will defend Nintendo products in every thread where it may be critisized and they're being thrown into the fray of being fanboys aswell. That's just how it works.

People can say i'm a Nippon Ichi or a Dynasty Warriors fanboy, because I defend that game series or I defend that company, but honestly, who gives a f-ck?

Icarus4578
03-29-2005, 08:13 AM
About the thread title....

I have yet to be wowed by a single game.

WOW! $250 for a sh*tty portable!

WOW! $50 for lame rehashes and ports!

WOW! $20-30 for mini-movie UMD discs! I mean, who'd bother with a portable DVD player? They're so much worse!

WOW! I'm a sucker who gives my money to big corporate enterprises because I'm a brainwashed idiot!

WOW!

TheHardware
03-29-2005, 07:12 PM
Hey man, whatever you are, I could care less,

doesnt seem so right now!

you can tell I don't care by the fact that I'm not the guy who argues with you about this sh-t, and I don't go around argueing with people about the DS either, but you defend this product, you have a right to do so, but there is so much opposition against this product that the more you defend it the more it comes off as that is all you do.

i never cared to follow the crowd....

The funny part is you don't even have to be a fanboy, but the way you defend this psp product in every thread where there is an attack, actually rubs you off as one since you're one of the only ones who defends it to that extent.

now turn that around and say it to them...

That being said there are a greater number of people who will defend Nintendo products in every thread where it may be critisized and they're being thrown into the fray of being fanboys aswell. That's just how it works.

hey they pay thier online fees...they can post whatever they want....same for me too

People can say i'm a Nippon Ichi or a Dynasty Warriors fanboy, because I defend that game series or I defend that company, but honestly, who gives a f-ck?

obviously not you...i can tell you dont care about much :rolleyes:

Thunder Force 6
03-29-2005, 07:48 PM
About the thread title....

I have yet to be wowed by a single game.

WOW! $250 for a sh*tty portable!

WOW! $50 for lame rehashes and ports!

WOW! $20-30 for mini-movie UMD discs! I mean, who'd bother with a portable DVD player? They're so much worse!

WOW! I'm a sucker who gives my money to big corporate enterprises because I'm a brainwashed idiot!

WOW!

Quoted for truth.

Black Sugar
03-29-2005, 08:05 PM
Does that mean Sony shouldn't have rivals in console gaming
With is Mp3 player, playback movie, i'm thinking that the PSP try to have it's fair share of the i pod market. If the PSP was only playing game with a decent price tag it would make more sense in my view. Playing movie with UMD media ? Didn't they learn anything from MD player ?

Abaddon
03-29-2005, 08:11 PM
doesnt seem so right now!

Why because I'm posting? I could spend that time jerking off but my dick would fall off if I did it that much

i never cared to follow the crowd....

Doesn't matter what you care about Hardware, thats how you come off, and even if you care about the crowd or not, they're your audience, without them you're just talking to yourself.

now turn that around and say it to them...

Let them read it for themselves, they don't need me of all people to tell them, besides, thats what you're here for :thumb-up:

hey they pay thier online fees...they can post whatever they want....same for me too

Quote me where I said they can't, oh wait thats right I didn't! Don't talk sh-t for the hell of it and expect to be heard with whatever shred of respect you give to yourself. Thats a tip from me to you.

obviously not you...i can tell you dont care about much :rolleyes:

Can't say that I do, jizz rag, But if your getting too lonely, I could always just turn into another Sony hater and bash the almighty god of the company (if you want of course), I'm sure you'd love some of that attention :thumb-up:

FinalSolace2
03-29-2005, 08:12 PM
About the thread title....

I have yet to be wowed by a single game.

WOW! $250 for a sh*tty portable!

WOW! $50 for lame rehashes and ports!

WOW! $20-30 for mini-movie UMD discs! I mean, who'd bother with a portable DVD player? They're so much worse!

WOW! I'm a sucker who gives my money to big corporate enterprises because I'm a brainwashed idiot!

WOW!

dont forget the memory stick

Messanic
03-29-2005, 11:26 PM
I called Sony today and got a black lady by the name of Shawnda, and I asked about my PSP and it's dead pixel. She read the whole return policy on dead pixels and how they were normal occurences in LCD screens, etc. I then told her about my bubbles on my PSP screen, she said it was called condensation, the only way to get rid of these bubbles is to leave the UMD door open for a few hours. Why I called Sony? Well my local BBV apparently got yelled at for people returning thier PSP's, but the Sony rep herself said that it's ok to return it to where I bought it for another.

So the store I got it from had to call the district BBV, but the funny thing was that the manager at the district didn't believe what I said coming from the employee, so I had to call his voice mail. This was all after I had gotten the Hori screen protector for my PSP too. All I want is a working PSP, no bubbles, not one dead pixel, and a solid return policy if something is wrong. While there are people on these boards going "I told you not to buy a first run Sony product" or "Sony sucks, I hate all thier crappy products and the thread value that goes with it." I don't care, I play video games for entertainment and that alone, the PSP has proven to me that it can entertain me, so I'm gonna keep trying until I get a proper PSP.

Icarus4578
03-30-2005, 09:29 AM
In other words, the PSP has proven to you, Messanic, that you can spend $300+ dollars for a broken portable with at least one game and that that's worth the money wasted. You must be crazy. And BTW, applying a rating to the games available without having actually played them is uttery ridiculous.

Nephlabobo
03-30-2005, 09:39 AM
And BTW, applying a rating to the games available without having actually played them is uttery ridiculous.

So is criticising a game's gameplay and generally dismissing it as nothing special.

Icarus4578
03-30-2005, 09:45 AM
I didn't apply a rating to it, and I never reviewed it. Just because I said that it doesn't look all that fun doesn't mean anything. I'll play it and then apply a rating to it.

Abaddon
03-30-2005, 09:52 AM
Just because I said that it doesn't look all that fun doesn't mean anything.

You're right it doesn't mean anything you woman! :too mad:

Icarus4578
03-30-2005, 09:57 AM
There are many games everybody looks at and goes, "That doesn't look good." Then they play it and either confirm their suspicions or are suprised by how good it is. Case in point: Tokimeki Memorial. When I first saw it, I thought it looked boring and dull. But when I actually got into it I found that I enjoyed it immensely.

Abaddon
03-30-2005, 10:01 AM
There are many games everybody looks at and goes, "That doesn't look good." Then they play it and either confirm their suspicions or are suprised by how good it is. Case in point: Tokimeki Memorial. When I first saw it, I thought it looked boring and dull. But when I actually got into it I found that I enjoyed it immensely.

See it was a little different with me, I was browsin the net, bored out of my mind one day, and I decided to download some random japanese game, since I had played almost all the playable english games there were to try, and I picked up this game for the SNES by Konami, and it was Tokimeki memorial (the same version as the psx but downgraded) and I immediately loved the idea, it was fun, addictive, really got me hooked, I then later tried the 2nd one on the psx, and I wasn't into it at all, I guess it was just the characters and such in the first version that got me interested. :thumb-up:

I heard they got funky versions in japan where this arcade machine checks your heart beat to see if you're cool under pressure or boiling over, thats some crazy ass **** right there!

Icarus4578
03-30-2005, 10:03 AM
The two direct sequels to Tokimeki Memorial weren't as good because, as you mentioned, the cast of girls weren't as interesting. I know about that arcade you speak of but I don't know if it was a Tokimeki arcade game. Would be very interesting to try it, though.

Abaddon
03-30-2005, 10:07 AM
The two direct sequels to Tokimeki Memorial weren't as good because, as you mentioned, the cast of girls weren't as interesting. I know about that arcade you speak of but I don't know if it was a Tokimeki arcade game. Would be very interesting to try it, though.

I heard about that arcade machine in a Tokimeki Memorial site that talked about the different versions they had in Japan, that was years ago though, but I recall hearing that Tokimeki Memorial was the most popular of the dating sims in japan, and that dating sims were HUGE in japan. Don't know if they still are, because I haven't heard about one being made in a while.

Icarus4578
03-30-2005, 10:10 AM
Tokimeki basically created the genre. Although there were hentai PC titles before that point, none of them had any semblance of gameplay. TM had depth, gameplay, funfactor, tons of minigames and stuff, and was not a hentai game by any means. Afterwards, games such as Sakura Taisen, Can Can Bunny, et al. blossomed and, slowly, much of the successive romance/dating sims dissolved, again, into hentai territory.