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Black Ace
09-06-2002, 11:44 AM
http://www.raretopia.com/games/gcn/starfoxadventures/109.jpg

http://www.raretopia.com/games/gcn/starfoxadventures/108.jpg

http://www.raretopia.com/games/gcn/starfoxadventures/113.jpg

http://www.raretopia.com/games/gcn/starfoxadventures/110.jpg

http://www.raretopia.com/games/gcn/starfoxadventures/115.jpg

Check out those screens.

Nindalf
09-06-2002, 12:08 PM
The game looks great!And i liked that screen where Fox drives that thing in snow!

Cant wait to get this game!

Vicviper
09-06-2002, 03:50 PM
Wow! That looks beautiful. What a gorgeous game. Bright colors and awesome textures. Just a little over 2 weeks for us in the USA. Sorry NIN. We will be playing Starfox before you even get to play Mario.

Nindalf
09-07-2002, 03:56 AM
No worries!
I just have to think after you guys have played it through the whole gaming experience will still be ahead of me!;)

Kid0_oIcarus
09-08-2002, 06:16 PM
Yeah.. we'll be sure to spoil all the surprises for ya :D

Seriously though, I can't wait for this game either.. I want it now..
Another thing... does anyone else think that maybe after SFA is out, we might finally know the situation between Nintendo and Rare?? It's be funny if they included a preview or trailer of Donkey Kong Racing on SFA... wait.. no that'd be cool.

I think that would be a great way to squash all the rumors...

Nindalf
09-09-2002, 08:06 AM
Hopefully SFA will sell tons so Rare realizes that it shouldnt leave Nintendo!
Star Fox,Donkey kong are still Nintendos so if Rare leaves it cant make those games anymore!

ATMA
09-10-2002, 09:53 AM
So like the game will be indeed 80 hours?
Or is that still a rumour ?!

And i think this game will do alot of good for Nintendo i mean we allready seeing that with SMS! I think Star Fox will do even better ..Just a thought though i mean to go against Mario is pretty tough! But i'm really curious about what Star Fox will do !

Black Ace
09-10-2002, 09:56 AM
Rare said it take about 100 for people with no experiences with gaming, n00b. I'd say about 50+ hours.

crazytaxinext
09-10-2002, 10:23 AM
I'm guessing its about 40 hours. Ocarina took me about 50 and Rare games are never as intriquite.

ATMA
09-10-2002, 10:47 AM
Well whatever the lenght is ..i bet this game will be like a game we will never forget and i bet after the game i can't wait for Star Fox armada or Zelda ! :big smile

Kid0_oIcarus
09-10-2002, 10:53 AM
I've noticed the foxes looked beautiful.. but Peppy or that frog guy.. (what was his name?) don't look nearly as good.

Black Ace
09-10-2002, 10:56 AM
Slippy, I think.

DBJAY
09-10-2002, 10:58 AM
There is a demo of the game at Best Buy. Might want to check that out if your into the game. It's a little different than I thought it would be. One thing I noticed off the bat, no english for voice acting for the blue female character. She speaks in an unusual language and is subtitled. Her sequence starts with an air battle with a flying galleon where she loses her staff (the one Fox finds later). It controlled well and honestly it is not the best scene to judge graphics by (but at this early stage there is a difference in graphic quality between a cut scene and the actual gameplay), so I want to go back and play some of the ground levels to see if this discrepancy between gameplay and cut scene continues.

Kid0_oIcarus
09-10-2002, 11:20 AM
What do you mean in difference in quality of the graphics?

As in the cut-scenes look better than the in-game graphics?

DBJAY
09-10-2002, 01:30 PM
Exactly. The cut scene, at least for her, is better than the actual gameplay. So far, there are the gameplay graphics and the cut scenes which for her are the story breaks where camera goes in for a close-up on her face for dialogue. In the close-ups when you are watching the game, it looks pretty good. When you are playing the game, it still looks good, but there is a difference. I wasn't able to fiddle around with the zoom to see how detailed the graphics truly are or aren't, so I want to get some more hands on time with the other parts of the game.

In general, I view this as a Gran Turismo situtation where the replays are visually more polished than the actual game. It still looks great, but they clearly are two different levels of quality. IMO, if you see any shot of the game where it is a close-up of a face, then you are actually looking at an in-game cinema or cut scene that may not be what the game looks like when you are controlling the characters. Time will tell.

FumieHosokawa
09-10-2002, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by DBJAY
In general, I view this as a Gran Turismo situtation where the replays are visually more polished than the actual game. It still looks great, but they clearly are two different levels of quality.

Welcome to the world of FMV, which began with the PlayStation in '95. There are plusses and minuses to it: you feel gypped when you get to the actual gameplay (I remember someone ridiculously insisting that Saturn Panzer Dragoon resemble its beautiful cut scenes all throughout), but even as recently as Xbox Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I'll cringe during story moments when I have to listen to the blocky, albeit real-time characters.

DBJAY
09-10-2002, 04:19 PM
Buffy is a good example. In game models actually look better than the cut scenes. Usually it's the other way around. I hope StarFox Adventures is not doing this to a huge degree, but time will tell. IMO, Metroid Prime is the best looking GC coming this fall.

ATMA
09-10-2002, 04:35 PM
What's wrong with the game if the cg or cut scenes looks better than the character model or the in game graphics? ..since when is this a part in making a great game? Yes SF looks amazing i'm happy with it the way it is, but IMO this game will score even higher in story/gameplay/originality! So don't judge a game by just a cg or the graphics that's totaly wrong!!

Black Ace
09-10-2002, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by ATMA
What's wrong with the game if the cg or cut scenes looks better than the character model or the in game graphics? ..since when is this a part in making a great game? Yes SF looks amazing i'm happy with it the way it is, but IMO this game will score even higher in story/gameplay/originality! So don't judge a game by just a cg or the graphics that's totaly wrong!!

Amen. Gameplay is what matter. :cool guy:

DBJAY
09-10-2002, 07:01 PM
My only issue with the use of CG and movie sequences is when they are used to advertise the game without ever showing what the actual game looks like. Nintendo has mostly avoided putting out such material, but if anyone recalls, Squaresofts commercials for FFX was exclusively cg material. I have seen enough screens of StarFox A. to wonder if the best shots of the game aren't gameplay at all, especially after my brief hands-on experience and if you read my original response, I did mention that the game controls really well. Just being a cautious consumer.

Black Ace
09-10-2002, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by DBJAY
My only issue with the use of CG and movie sequences is when they are used to advertise the game without ever showing what the actual game looks like. Nintendo has mostly avoided putting out such material, but if anyone recalls, Squaresofts commercials for FFX was exclusively cg material. I have seen enough screens of StarFox A. to wonder if the best shots of the game aren't gameplay at all, especially after my brief hands-on experience and if you read my original response, I did mention that the game controls really well. Just being a cautious consumer.

Square has always use CG for their game commercials. From FF7 to the present.

Kid0_oIcarus
09-10-2002, 07:16 PM
Um... well, you did say that Nintendo avoided doing this.. so good for you. Since, Nintendo has shown off in-game screenshots as well as CG (and you could obviously tell) shots.. also in their commercials they've done the same.. shown you in-game footage and CG footage.

I just wanted to clarify, in case someone misunderstood you.

ATMA
09-11-2002, 07:56 PM
Have you guys heard that STAR fOX recieved a 6/10 in a japanese magazine?
it wasn't Famitsu or Dengeki ! it was another one! Anybody seen this and know why they gave it that score? ???

Overlord
09-11-2002, 08:09 PM
Star Fox was never expected to do that great in Japan. A lot of games that get good reviews here, get medicore reviews there. And vice-versa.

ATMA
09-11-2002, 08:12 PM
Well not that i cared about the score (i never follow those) i'll buy this game no matter what! But still i was alittle surprised though about the score!
I wonder what famitsu will give the game!

ATMA
09-11-2002, 08:13 PM
I got the name of the magazine "DORIMAGA" anybody familiar with them?

FumieHosokawa
09-11-2002, 08:22 PM
Yup, like how Super Metroid wasn't as popular over there as it was here. I'm guessing GC Prime will be even more so, especially since FPS's are not the Japanese's cup of tea--look how sorry the mighty/awesome/best-game-ever Halo fared; worse than no-name games like Animal Leader.

ATMA
09-11-2002, 08:31 PM
Well i will not judge this game until i play it but a score like this will deffently warn alot of people! ..I know i will like this game but ofcourse i'm trying to be realism here, i mean there's a chance that this game is bad indeed but before we all start to judge or start a war lets just wait and see and ignore all we hear!!!

Just wanted to know who this magazine was so i brought up the subject! But if you feel you will burst at me or the magazine ..just ignore it and let it go ..remember it's their opinion ..!! So fellow members don't pay attention to the score
it's a matter of taste!

Perhaps another sign of weakness from RARE? Perhaps Nintendo knew this allready and that's why handed up the rights to devolpe a new Star Fox to Namco ? Who knows what's going on behind the screens!

Overlord
09-11-2002, 08:41 PM
Nintendo gave Namco the rights to make the Star Fox game because they have more experiance in that field. Plus, they're already close Devs with the Tri-Force board, this just means that Namco and Nintendo will most likely be working really closely in the following years. There were reports of people leaving RARE, but I think it was only in the PD department. Maybe the game was rushed? If the game is 80+ hours, maybe it has a lot of backtracking, and might be really tedioius. Plus, it has more of Zelda like battle system to it.

...And you must think a lot of yourself if you think guy's here would want to burst on you. :D

ATMA
09-11-2002, 08:53 PM
*summoning ANIMA for Overlord* :haha:

Well i can imagine some members here going crazy for bringing that subject here so i was just trying to help them that's all

(i just had to reply on this one so i wasted my 1000th!)

Overlord
09-11-2002, 08:59 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOO!! How could you waste it? Hurry, delete one or two of your older posts any you'll be back at 999!

What subject?

ATMA
09-11-2002, 09:00 PM
The subject about the low score of Star Fox! never mind lets forget about it !

Overlord
09-11-2002, 09:06 PM
Heres what I think about the score and subject in general:

The people that reviewed the game didn't seem to like it much.

There, a well thought out indepth review of whats happening, enjoy. :D

ATMA
09-11-2002, 09:08 PM
The people that reviewed the game didn't seem to like it much.

Getting political on us now Overlord? :crazy:

Overlord
09-11-2002, 09:31 PM
ATMA:
Getting political on us now Overlord?

Yes, yes I'am. I could also bring in Religion and and the fact that P.Diddy invented the remix on why Star Fox got a medicore score, but that might be going a little too far.

baratus
09-12-2002, 06:21 AM
With all the rumors about Rare working for the bastards of Micro$oft I'm even starting to hate SFA.

ATMA
09-12-2002, 07:38 AM
Well i can understand your frustration but to take it out on SFA! I'm affraid (it's just a theory though) that the Nintendo people will start to make a bad propaganda about SFA ..because the Rare MS situation! Let me put it this way i wouldn't be surprised if all the sudden one of the most anticipated game on the cube all the sudden isn't all that anticipated anymore! And people start to judge the game before they play it!

ATMA
09-12-2002, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by Overlord

Yes, yes I'am. I could also bring in Religion and and the fact that P.Diddy invented the remix on why Star Fox got a medicore score, but that might be going a little too far.

*Sigh* I think you need some help buddy, hearing voices in your head lately Overlord? :P

Overlord
09-12-2002, 07:29 PM
baratus:
With all the rumors about Rare working for the bastards of Micro$oft I'm even starting to hate SFA.

Thats just stupid. Why should you hate a game all of a sudden just because the creators may have gone to another platform? How does that affect the quality of the game? Espcially if the game was done before all these deals started going through. Don't use your bais comments on a company to bash on a game. Don't knock it 'till you try it.

ATMA:
*Sigh* I think you need some help buddy, hearing voices in your head lately Overlord? :P

You can't hide from the truth forever ATMA! P. Diddy is heavily connected with Dorimaga. And it was him and his Religious views that brought down the score! Admit it.

...And how come you never use that ID pic I sent you? The one with the long scary hair. That was like the best thing ever.

Overlord
09-12-2002, 07:53 PM
DBJAY:
but if anyone recalls, Squaresofts commercials for FFX was exclusively cg material.

I recall that, and thats not true. They had a clip 1.25-1.75 secs long showing the opening of the summoning of Ifrit in that game. And that scene can easily pass as CG anyway.

Black Ace
09-12-2002, 10:22 PM
thats the score? Rare games never scored well in japan anyway. PD got like 7,7,7,7 from Famitsu.

Kid0_oIcarus
09-13-2002, 07:51 AM
Hm.. Okay.. I think this thread just went to :crazy: there...

Anyway, I'll jump on the bandwagon.. yeah- Rare never did so good in Japan.

crazytaxinext
09-13-2002, 09:22 AM
Given Rare's success rate in Japan the score doesn't surprise me either. I remember how long it took them to get Banjo-Kazooie released there and even then I don't think it sold that hotly. If it performs the same in its upcoming US reviews then we'll know the story behind its Jap scores.

DBJAY
09-13-2002, 05:49 PM
Overlord, that's what I am talking about. The cut scenes of the summoning, and other cut scenes are shown. The actual gameplay footage of Tidus running around the environment was never shown in commercials because the difference between them is night and day.

Overlord
09-13-2002, 07:24 PM
Oh, ok. I thought you meant it was all FMV, which was 97.5% of the commercial.

Black Ace
09-13-2002, 08:08 PM
Take a look at these! Rare is simply amazing in visual department.

http://www.rareware.com/graphics/starfox-adventures/super_big/sep02_1jpg

http://www.rareware.com/graphics/starfox-adventures/super_big/sep02_2jpg

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http://www.rareware.com/graphics/starfox-adventures/super_big/sep02_23.jpg

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http://www.rareware.com/graphics/starfox-adventures/super_big/sep02_25.jpg

Black Ace
09-14-2002, 09:37 AM
For thosw wondering, Falco will appeared in SFA. Head over to N-Philes for a picture.

crazytaxinext
09-14-2002, 11:27 AM
I'm not expecting an amazing experience from SFA but it should a be nice filler between stuff like Animal Crossing and Metroid.

Kid0_oIcarus
09-16-2002, 08:58 AM
I can't wait for Animal Crossing.. but I look forward to SFA too- Rare will hopefully go out in a big way..

ATMA
09-22-2002, 07:27 PM
Only a few more days for SFA! Despite all the problems with Rare i got some high expectations about this game! I was looking foward for this game for a loooooooooong time allready ..and now that day is upon us ...resistance is futile!

Overlord
09-22-2002, 07:31 PM
So what ATMA? You're just going to ignore the vital connections with Dorimaga?

ATMA
09-22-2002, 07:35 PM
Yep i don't think P.DIDDY is behind this! Leave the man alone ..he's been through alot! :D

Overlord
09-22-2002, 07:42 PM
Yeah, he just got dropped by his label company or something.

Black Ace
09-22-2002, 11:53 PM
The reviewer who gave this game a 4.5 has no clue what they are talking about. SFA isn't about collecting items, there are artifact to find, much like in The Legend of Zelda series. So far, Matt from IGN play through nearly the whole game and enjoyed it a whole lot. The review from IGN is expected to be out tomorrow, so check IGN.

Black Ace
09-22-2002, 11:58 PM
hello, Nintendo has launch the Star Fox website!

http://www.starfox.com/

Black Ace
09-24-2002, 12:25 AM
This game is going to be huge! 13 different areas are shown here:

http://www.planetstarfox.com/images/starfox4.jpg